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>>> WE KNEW THAT THE VICTIMS WERE UNDER THE COMFORTER BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT VISIBLE IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS WE HAD PREVIOUSLY TAKEN. WE DECIDED TO METHODICALLY REMOVE EACH LAYER AS WE FOUND THEM, AND THEN DOCUMENT WITH PHOTOGRAPHS. >> NOW POLICE HAVE REVEALED THOSE CHILLING CRIME SCENE PHOTOGRAPHS TO THE JURY, BUT WILL THE PICTURES HELP THEM FIGURE OUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED INSIDE THE ENTWISTLE HOUSE? THAT'S COMING UP RIGHT NOW ON OPEN COURT. GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO OPEN COURT. I'M LISA BLOOM. IT WAS MORE THAN TWO YEARS AGO WHEN 27-YEAR-OLD RACHEL ENTWISTLE AND HER 9-MONTH-OLD DAUGHTER LILLIAN WERE FOUND SHOT TO DEATH IN THEIR MASSACHUSETTS HOME. NOW, THE VICTIM'S HUSBAND, NEIL ENTWISTLE IS ON TRIAL FOR THE CRIME. YESTERDAY PROSECUTORS CALLED A SERIES OF POLICE WITNESSES TO DESCRIBE THE DISTURBING CRIME SCENE. CORRESPONDENT BETH KARAS JOINS US LIVE FROM MASSACHUSETTS WITH THE BIGGEST MOMENT FROM THE TRIAL YESTERDAY. GOOD MORNING, BETH. >> Reporter: GOOD MORNING, LISA. WELL, HOPKINTON POLICE SERGEANT MICHAEL SUTTON WAS ON THE STAND YESTERDAY, AND HE TOLD THE JURY ABOUT TWO VISITS TO THE NEW HOME THE ENTWISTLES WERE LIVING IN IN JANUARY 2006. HE FOUND NOTHING UNUSUAL WHEN HE WENT TO THE HOME ON SATURDAY, THE 21st OF JANUARY. HE DID SORT OF A CURSORY WALK THROUGH. BUT ABOUT 24 HOURS LATER HE RETURNED TO THE HOUSE, AND HE MADE A STARTLING DISCOVERY. HE FOLLOWED A FOUL ODOR UPSTAIRS INTO THE MASTER BEDROOM. HE LIFTED A CORNER OF THE COMFORTER AND SAW A FOOT, AND THEN HE MOVED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BED. >> I THEN LIFTED THE COMFORTER AT THAT CORNER IN A SIMILAR MANNER AS I HAD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BED. >> AND WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DID YOU SEE WHEN YOU LIFTED THAT? >> I FIRST OBSERVED A SMALL BABY'S FACE. >> WHAT PORTION OF THE FACE COULD YOU SEE? >> IT WAS LOOKING DOWN AT THE TOP OF THE HEAD, THE FOREHEAD, EYES, NOSE. >> AND THEN WHAT DID YOU DO? >> AS I CONTINUED TO RAISE THE COMFORTER SLIGHTLY MORE, I LOOKED TO THE RIGHT OF THE BABY'S FACE AND SAW A WOMAN'S FACE. >> SERGEANT SUTTON SOON AFTER SECURED THE PERIMETER OF THE HOUSE, LEFT EVERYTHING INTACT, REPORTED HIS FINDINGS. A SEARCH WARRANT WAS OBTAINED. THE MASSACHUSETTS STATE POLICE ENTERED THE PICTURE. SERGEANT MARY RITCHIE, AMONG OTHERS, PROCESSED THE CRIME SCENE, AND SHE LATER YESTERDAY TOLD THE JURY ABOUT UNCOVERING THE BODIES, TAKING THE COMFORTER, FINDING A PILL OEF OWN THE HEAD OF BABY LILLIAN. TAKING THE PILLOW OFF, REMOVING THE SHEET FROM RACHEL ENTWISTLE AND SEEING THERE WERE BULLET WOUNDS. >> I'M SURE THE JURY IS PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS DESCRIPTION OF THE CRIME SCENE TRYING TO AMASS CLUES TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT NEIL ENTWISTLE IS GOOD FOR THE CRIME. AS YOU SAID, BETH, MARY RITCHIE TESTIFIED YESTERDAY FROM THE MASSACHUSETTS STATE POLICE CRIME SERVICES UNIT. TAKE A LISTEN TO THIS. >> FIRST WE REMOVED THE COMFORTER. WE BROUGHT IT DOWN TO THE FOOT OF THE BED. WE OBSERVED BOTH VICTIMS, THE MOTHER. >> RACHEL WAS ON HER LEFT SIDE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BED FACING THE RIGHT SIDE. HER ARM WAS ACROSS THE SECOND VICTIM, LILLIAN, THE BABY. HER ARM, HER RIGHT ARM, WAS COVERING ACROSS THE INFANT'S CHEST. >> BETH, WHAT ELSE DID WE LEARN ABOUT THE CRIME SCENE YESTERDAY THAT'S GOING TO BE OF SIGNIFICANCE TO THE JURY IN THIS CASE? >> Reporter: WELL, THE JURY LEARNED SORT OF THE CONDITION OF THE HOUSE. THEY'VE SEEN DIAGRAMS OF THE LAYOUT OF EACH FLOOR, BASEMENT LEVEL, FIRST FLOOR, SECOND FLOOR, AND THEY'VE HEARD DESCRIPTIONS FROM VARIOUS POLICE OFFICERS WHO WALKED THROUGH THE HOUSE AND WHAT THEY OBSERVED, AND THE JURY NOW KNOWS THE FORMAL LIVING ROOM, NOT THE FAMILY ROOM, HAD THE TV ON. THEY KNOW THERE WAS CLASSICAL MUSIC PLAYING FROM A RADIO IN THE BABY'S ROOM. THEY KNOW THERE WAS BATH WATER DRAWN IN A TUB UPSTAIRS IN ONE OF THE BATHROOMS OFF THE HALLWAY, NOT THE MASTER BEDROOM. THEY DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT BABY TOYS IN THE TUB, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT I READ. HAVEN'T SEEN PHOTOS OF THAT YET EITHER. >> VERY INTERESTING, BETH. WHAT WERE THE TWO VICTIMS WEARING WHEN THEY WERE FOUND? >> THEY WERE WEARING WHAT APPEAR TO BE PAJAMAS. RACHEL HAD ON A SHIRT AND LITTLE SHORTS. THEY APPEARED TO BE PO JAM MAS AND THE BABY HAD ON A ONE PIECE SLEEPER WITH A T-SHIRT AND THERE WERE BURN MARKS ON ONE OF THE PUNCTURE WOUNDS. WE WILL PROBABLY HEAR IT WAS A CLOSE CONTACT BULLET WOUND. >> I UNDERSTAND THE CRIME SCENE WAS, OF COURSE, PROCESSED FOR FINGERPRINTS. WHAT DID THAT REVEAL? >> Reporter: WELL, THAT TESTIMONY IS STILL COMING OUT. ACTUALLY WHEN COURT ENDED MARY RITCHIE WAS STILL ON THE STAND TALKING ABOUT A .22 GUN AND HER INABILITY TO GET PRINTS FROM THAT. I'M NOT SURE SHE'S FINISHED WITH HER TESTIMONY ABOUT COMPARISONS SHE MADE. SHE WAS ONE OF A FEW PEOPLE WHO PROCESSED THE SCENE, AND THEY FOUND RACHEL AND NEIL FINGERPRINTS, NOT UNUSUAL. THEY WERE LIVING IN THE HOUSE. ALSO FOUND A FIP FROM KIM PUIG WHO IS THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE WHO HAD LIVED THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE RENTING IT TO THE ENTWISTLES. BUT THE POLICE FOUND A GLASS BABY FOOD JAR, WHICH DIDN'T HAVE FOOD IN IT ANYMORE. IT HAD BEEN CLEANED OUT AND HAD AMMUNITION IN IT, AND THEY FOUND IT, I BELIEVE, IN A BOX IN THE HOUSE, AND THAT I THINK IS THE BASIS FOR THE POSSESSION OF AMMUNITION COUNT. ONE OF THE FOUR COUNTS AGAINST NEIL ENTWISTLE, THE POSSESSION OF THE AMMUNITION DOESN'T MEAN THE AMMUNITION IN THE GUN. HE'S CHARGED SEPARATELY WITH POSSESSING A GUN ILLEGALLY. HE'S NOT LICENSED. BUT THAT HAD THE FINGERPRINTS OF ANTHONY MAT RO ZO, A STEPBROTHER TO RACHEL ENTWISTLE, A SON TO JOSEPH MATTERAZZO, AND ANTHONY IS ONE OF THE SONS OF JOE MATTERAZZO HE USED TO GO TO THE GUN CLUB WITH HIM. I SUSPECT THAT THE PROSECUTION WILL SAY THAT NEIL ENTWISTLE STOLE THE GUN OUT OF THE MATTERAZZO HOME. HE KNEW WHERE THE KEYS WERE TO THE GUN SAFE, AND HE ALSO STOLE THE GLASS JAR OF AMMUNITION. HE PUT IT IN THE JAR BUT IN ALL LIKELIHOOD THE JAR WHICH ANTHONY HAD HANDLED AT SOME POINT HE TOOK FROM THE HOME. >> AN ESPECIALLY CHILLING COINCIDENCE GIVEN THAT A BABY IS ONE OF THE VICTIMS HERE, THE YOUNGEST VICTIM I HAVE SEEN IN MY YEARS OF COVERING CASES HERE IN COURT TV, NOW "IN SESSION." ONLY NINE MONTHS OLD, BABY LILLIAN. I UNDERSTAND THE JURY SAW THE MURDER WEAPON FOR THE FIRST TIME YESTERDAY. WHAT DID THEY LEARN ABOUT THAT? >> Reporter: THEY'LL STILL LEARN BEING IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW YET IT'S THE MURDER WEAPON. THEY KNOW IT WAS A .22 CALIBER REINVOLVER THAT CAUSED THE DEATH OF LILLIAN AND RACHEL ENTWISTLE, BUT THEY KNOW THAT FROM OPENING STATEMENTS. SO THE GUN HASN'T BEEN TIED YET TO THE BODIES. HOWEVER, AND WE COULD SEE THE GUN. THE JURY -- I GUESS SHE DID HOLD IT UP BRIEFLY ONCE. THIS IS SERGEANT MARY RITCHIE, BUT SHE WAS TALKING YESTERDAY ABOUT PROCESSING IT, TRYING TO GET FINGERPRINTS OFF OF IT, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING -- >> AND NO FINGERPRINTS ON THAT GUN IS GOING TO BE A BIG HURDLE POTENTIALLY FOR THE PROSECUTION. WE LOST BETH KARAS THERE OBVIOUSLY. WE'LL TRY TO GET HER BACK IN A MOMENT. LET ME USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COURTROOM. THE PARTICIPANTS HAVE ASSEMBLED IN THE COURTROOM. YOU CAN SEE HERE FROM THIS LIVE SHOT WE HAVE A SIDE BAR, PROBABLY WORKING OUT HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS FOR THE DAY. WE EXPECT LIVE TESTIMONY TO GET UNDER WAY SHORTLY. WHEN IT DOES WE WILL GO RIGHT INTO THAT COURTROOM. IN THE MEANTIME, I AM SEVERAL GUESTS JOINING ME. FIRST IN NEW YORK CARMEN ST. GEORGE IS A FORTUNATELIER PROSECUTOR TURNED TERRIFIC CIVIL ATTORNEY AND GOOD FRIEND OF MINE. CARMEN, GREAT TO SEE YOU. >> HI, LISA. >> GWEN LINDSEY JACKSON IS A CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY AND FORMER MILITARY PROSECUTOR. YOU GO, GIRL. GREAT TO SEE YOU GWEN. >> GREAT TO BE HERE. >> AND JOINING US LIVE FROM MASSACHUSETTS IS PETER ELIKEN, A FORMER TV REPORTER AND AUTHOR OF THE "TOUGH ON CRIME MYTH: REAL COLLUSIONS TO CUT CRIME." ALWAYS GREED TO SEE YOU. WE HAVE A MURDER WEAPON ACCORDING TO THE PROSECUTION. WE HAVE A GUN. THE JURY SAW IT YESTERDAY, BUT, OOPS, THERE'S NO FINGERPRINTS ON THAT GUN. HOW MUCH OF A BLOW IS THAT TO THE PROSECUTION? >> I THINK THAT'S SERIOUS. WITHOUT THE TYING OF THAT WEAPON TO HIM BY WAY OF FINGERPRINTS, THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO OVERCOME. YOU WANT TO HAVE TANGIBLE PROOF THAT THIS MAN HAD HIS HANDS ON THAT WEAPON AND HE PULLED THE TRIGGER AND HE TOOK OUT THE LIFE OF HIS WIFE AND HIS ADORABLE LITTLE BABY GIRL. WITHOUT THOSE FINGERPRINTS I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT. >> OKAY. AND CARMEN ST. GEORGE, WHAT ABOUT THAT? ISN'T THERE ENOUGH CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AGAINST NEIL ENTWISTLE THAT THEY DON'T NEED THAT? >> COME ON. LET'S LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE. WE HAVE A LOT OF CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. I MEAN, THIS IS THE CLASSIC DIVORCE SUBSTITUTE. YOU KILL YOUR WIFE AND KID, YOU'RE GOOGLING WAYS TO DO IT AND THE ABILITY TO COMMIT SUICIDE AFTER. YOU HAVE THE INTERNET SITES SHOWING DOING IT WITH A KNIFE. HE HAS TIES INDICATING HE WENT TO PICK UP THE GUN. HE'S THE LAST PERSON TO BE SEEN WITH THEM, AND THEN GUESS WHAT? HE GOES AND TRIES TO DRAIN THE BANK ACCOUNTS. SO I THINK THE PROSECUTION CAN PULL THIS ALL TOGETHER. WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S FINGERPRINTS ON THE ACTUAL WEAPON DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AT THE END WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE EVIDENCE. >> HOW ABOUT SNEAKING OFF TO ENGLAND WITHOUT EVEN CALLING THE POLICE WHEN HE SUPPOSEDLY FOUND HIS WIFE AND BABY DEAD IN THE HOME. TO ME THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT DETAIL. BETH KARAS, WEIGH IN ON THIS ISSUE. >> IN MY EXPERIENCE TRYING CASES, IT'S VERY UNUSUAL TO GET FINGERPRINTS OFF A GUN. SO THIS IS NOT A HURDLE FOR THE PROSECUTION THAT THEY HAVE TO GET OVER, BUT THEY HAVE BETTER EVIDENCE ANYWAY BECAUSE NEIL ENTWISTLE'S DNA IS ON IT ACCORDING TO THE PROSECUTION'S WITNESSES AS WELL AS RACHEL ENTWISTLE'S AND THERE'S ALREADY BEEN TESTIMONY THAT NEIL NL WENT TO THE GUN CLUB AT LEAST TWICE AND THAT WEAPON WAS AMONG THE WEAPONS USED THAT DAY. SO HIS DNA I BELIEVE IS ON THE GRIP AND HERS IS ON THE MUZZLE. >> OKAY. SO PETER, THERE'S A GOOD ARGUMENT FOR THE DEFENSE THERE. EVEN IF HIS DNA IS ON IT, EVEN IF THERE WERE FINGERPRINTS, PLUS DNA, PLUS A PICTURE OF HIM HOLDING THE GUN, WHAT DIFFERENCE WOULD IT MAKE BECAUSE WE KNOW HE HAD GUNSHOTING WITH THE MATTERAZZOS IN THE PAST. >> BUT THE PROBLEM IS WHEN IT'S COMBINED WITH SORT OF HIS DNA, ET CETERA, HER -- RACHEL'S DNA IS ON IT ALSO AS THE CRIME VICTIM, YOU ARE RIGHT THOUGH. THERE IS SOME WIGGLE ROOM HERE. ALTHOUGH WHEN YOU COMBINE THAT WITH ALL -- AS WE SAID THAT MOUNTAIN OF CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, AND A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WILL SAY IT'S JUST A CIRCUMSTANTIAL CASE. CIRCUMSTANTIAL CASES CAN BE EXTREMELY POWERFUL AND STRONG. HOWEVER, WITHOUT HIS FINGERPRINTS ON THERE AND IF THERE WASN'T ANY DNA OF HIS ALSO, IT DOES GIVE THE DEFENSE ROOM -- REALLY DOES HELP EMPOWER THE DEFENSE, AND THERE IS SOMETHING THERE FOR THEM, BUT IT'S STILL A TOUGH ROW TO HOE THIS WHOLE DAYS FOR THE DEFENSE. >> I THINK SO. NO SIGNS OF FORCED ENTRY. NOTHING STOLEN. NO SEXUAL ASSAULT. WHY WOULD SOMEBODY ELSE BE DOING THIS CRIME? THAT MUST BE SOMETHING THE JURY HAS GOT TO BE WONDERING ABOUT. THE MYSTERY DEEPENED YESTERDAY AS SEVERAL POLICE OFFICERS TOLD THE JURY ABOUT THE CRIME SCENE. SERGEANT MICHAEL SUTTON DESCRIBED WHAT HE FOUND WHEN HE SEARCHED THE ENTWISTLE HOUSE ON JANUARY 21st. HE SAID THERE WAS A TV LEFT ON IN ONE ROOM AND MUSIC IN ANOTHER. THEN HE DESCRIBED WHAT HE SAW IN THE KITCHEN AND BATHROOM. >> DID YOU MAKE NOTE OF THE GENERAL CONDITION OF THE KITCHEN AREA? >> THE KITCHEN AREA IN THE HOUSE IN GENERAL LOOKED LIVED IN. THE KITCHEN HAD DISHES AND FOOD OUT AS IF SOMEONE HAD JUST FINISHED A MEAL BUT THEY HADN'T CLEANED UP YET. LOOKED INTO THE BATHROOM AM. >> WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DID YOU SEE THERE? >> THERE WAS NO ONE IN THERE. >> DID YOU LOOK IN THE TUB AREA, THE SHOWER AREA? >> YES. >> WHAT DID YOU SEE IN THERE? >> THE TUB STILL HAD WATER IN IT AND IT APPEARED THEY HAD BEEN GIVING THE BABY A BATH. >> SO TODAY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY IS, WHAT DOES THE CRIME SCENE TELL US? YOU CAN SEND US YOUR ANSWERS. JUST LOGON TO CNN.COM/CRIME AND CLICK ON OPEN COURT OR E-MAIL US DIRECTLY AT OPENCOURT@CNN.COM. WRITE A BRIEF ANSWER AND WE'LL READ ONE EVER YOUR RESPONSES AT THE END OF THE SHOW. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. >>> I CALLED HOPKINTON POLICE. >> AND DID YOU ASK THEM TO DO SOMETHING? >> I ASKED THEM -- I HAD EXPLAINED THAT I WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER WASN'T AT HOME WHERE SHE SAID SHE WOULD BE THAT DAY AND HADN'T ANSWERED THE PHONE ALL DAY AND ALSO WASN'T THERE FOR ANOTHER ENGAGEMENT WITH HER FRIEND AND THAT SHE ALWAYS, IF SHE MADE PLANS, SHE WAS ALWAYS THERE, AND I ASKED IF THEY COULD GO IN THE HOUSE AND SEE IF EVERYTHING WAS OKAY. >> AND THAT WAS THE CALL THAT SPARKED THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE DISAPPEARANCE OF RACHEL AND LILLIAN ENTWISTLE. SO NOW LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE TIMELINE OF THE CASE BEGINNING WITH THAT CALL TO THE POLICE. AT 8:25 P.M. ON JANUARY 21st, PRISCILLA MA RA ZO NOTIFIES THE HOPKINTON POLICE AFTER HER DAUGHTER DIDN'T ANSWER HER DOOR OR PHONE EARLIER THAT DAY. SHE HAD LUNCH PLANS WITH HER MOTHER. AT 8:27 P.M. RACHEL'S FRIEND JOANNA GATELY GOES TO THE HOPKINTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ASKS FOR A WELL-BEING CHECK AT THE ENTWISTLES' HOME. GATELY WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE NO ONE WAS HOME FOR THE PLANNED DINNER THEY HAD WITH THE ENTWISTLES THAT NIGHT. AT 8:35 P.M. THE HOPKINTON POLICE ENTER THE ENTWISTLES' HOME BUT FIND NO SIGNS OF FOUL PLAY. THE NEXT DAY, JANUARY 22nd, AT 5:12 P.M., THE MATTERAZZOS AND GATELIES FILE A FORMAL MISSING PERSONS REPORT. AT 6:30 POLICE ENTER THE ENTWISTLE HOME FOR A SECOND TIME. THEY DEFECT A FOUL ODOR, AND FIND THE BODIES OF RACHEL AND LILLIAN ENTWISTLE UNDER THE COVERS IN THE MASTER BEDROOM. AT 7:45 P.M. THE ENTWISTLES' BMW WAS LOCATED AT LOGAN INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. ON JANUARY 23rd THE FIRST SEARCH WARRANT IS EXECUTED AT THE ENTWISTLE HOME. LATER THAT DAY NEIL ENTWISTLE SPEAKS WITH STATE POLICE DETECTIVES BY PHONE FROM ENGLAND. HE SAYS HE FOUND HIS FAMILY KILLED AFTER RETURNING HOME FROM ERRANDS ON JANUARY 20th. TWO DAYS LATER MASSACHUSETTS DETECTIVES TRAVEL TO ENGLAND TO INVESTIGATE THE SHOOTINGS. ON JANUARY 27, NEIL ENTWISTLE TRAVELS TO THE U.S. EMBASSY IN LONDON TO SPEAK WITH INVESTIGATORS BUT ON THE ADVICE OF COUNSEL DECIDES NOT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. FINALLY, ON FEBRUARY 9th, NEIL ENTWISTLE IS ARRESTED IN LONDON. HE EVENTUALLY WAIVES EXTRADITION AND IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE U.S. TO STAND TRIAL. AND THAT TRIAL IS UNDER WAY NOW. AS SOON AS IT GETS UNDER WAY THIS MORNING WE'LL TAKE YOU RIGHT BACK INTO THE COURTROOM LIVE. CARMEN ST. GEORGE, LET ME BRING YOU IN HAVING LISTENED TO THAT TIME LINE. YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY HARD TO EXPLAIN HOW AN INNOCENT MAN, IF HE DID FIND HIS WIFE AND BABY SHOT TO DEATH IN HIS OWN HOME, DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO RENDER AID TO THEM, DIDN'T CALL THE POLICE, DIDN'T CALL HER FAMILY MEMBERS. >> LISA, THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY TROUBLING. I MEAN, HE COMES IN. HE CLAIMS THAT HE FINDS THEM DEAD, BUT HE DOESN'T CONTACT ANYONE, AND HIS FIRST THING TO DO IS TRY TO KILL HIMSELF BY GOING TO HIS FATHER-IN-LAW'S HOUSE AND GETTING A GUN BUT HE CAN'T GET IN SO THEN HE CAN'T KILL HIMSELF. THEN HE DECIDES TO FLEE TO ENGLAND? I MEAN, NONE OF IT MAKES SENSE. THAT'S NOT WHAT NATURAL RESPONSES WOULD BE IF YOU HAD NO INTEREST TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CRIME. THE NATURAL RESPONSE WOULD BE TO FREAK OUT, CALL THE POLICE, CALL A NEIGHBOR, SCREAM YOUR HEAD OFF, OR HAVE SOME SORT OF OUTWARD RESPONSE TO THE FACT THAT YOU'VE JUST SEEN YOUR 9-MONTH-OLD BABY AND YOUR SPOUSE DEAD. >> LET ME BRING IN OUR DEFENSE ATTORNEY, SEE WHAT YOU GOT ON THIS ISSUE. FIRST, PETER, OUT THERE IN MASSACHUSETTS, UNTIL JANUARY 23rd SO THREE DAYS AFTER NEIL ENTWISTLE SUPPOSEDLY FINDS THEM DEAD IN THE HOME. THREE DAYS GO BY. EVENTUALLY THE POLICE CONTACT HIM IN ENGLAND. HE DOESN'T CONTACT THEM. THERE MIGHT BE AN ARGUMENT THAT INITIALLY HE'S IN SUCH SHOCK, HE'S HORRIFIED, AN HOUR OR TWO GOES BY BEFORE HE MAKES THE CALL, SIX HOURS GO BY, MAYBE 24 HOURS GO BY, BUT THREE DAYS? >> WELL, YEAH, AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING? THAT'S THE MOST DAMNING BIT OF EVIDENCE. EVEN STRONGER THAN THE DNA. WHEN I TALK TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, EVERYBODY HAS THAT SAME GUT, VISCERAL REACTION. HE JUST LIKE LEFT AND TOOK A PLANE AND DISAPPEARED? THAT'S REALLY VERY HARSH. I GUESS THE DEFENSE WOULD BE HE FINDS -- AND I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A STRONG ONE, BUT HE FINDS THE DEAD BODIES, THERE'S NOTHING HE CAN DO, SOW DOESN'T HAVE TO CALL FOR HELP, AND HE'S SO TRAUMATIZED HE GOES BACK TO THE WARM BOSOM OF HIS FAMILY HE'S SO UPSET. THAT WOULD BE IT, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE -- I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WILL CARRY THE DAY. >> GWENDOLYN, WHAT ABOUT IT? HE'S NOT SO TRAUMATIZED HE CAN'T DRIVE SAFELY TO THE AIRPORT, PARK THE CAR, GET CASH, PURCHASE A TICKET, GET ON THE PLANE IN A VERY CALM MANNER, GET OFF THE PLANE. I MEAN, HE'S ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO FOR HIMSELF. >> THAT'S VERY TROUBLING AND IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO OVERCOME, YOU KNOW, HIS DEMEANOR, THE FACT HE WAS CONTROLLED AND THE FACT THAT HE STATED THAT, YOU KNOW, HE WAS SHOCKED THAT HE FOUND HIS POOR WIFE AND HIS CHILD IN THIS WAY. NOW, HOW COULD HE GO AHEAD AND DO THOSE THINGS? ONE WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT SHOWS HE'S COVERING SOMETHING UP. HOWEVER, I WOULD WANT TO SEE MORE EVIDENCE THAT POINTS DIRECTLY TO HIM. I MEAN, THERE'S A BIG CIRCUMSTANTIAL CASE. YOU CAN MAKE THE ARGUMENT THERE'S ALL THIS CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. HE DIDN'T ACT LIKE ANY OTHER GRIEVING PERSON WOULD HAVE ACTED OR ANY OTHER PERSON, YOU KNOW, UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, WOULD HAVE CALLED 911, BUT I WOULD WANT IF I WERE A PROSECUTOR TO SEE SOMETHING DIRECTLY POINTING AT THIS MAN SHOOTING THESE TWO PEOPLE. I WOULD WANT TO SEE SOMETHING ON THAT GUN THAT'S DEFINITIVE. I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT, BUT, AGAIN, THERE'S A BIG CIRCUMSTANTIAL CASE THAT YOU COULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT MIGHT OVERCOME IT. I STILL FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, HE HAS A RIGHT TO A DEFENSE AND I THINK THAT THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY IS GOING TO TRY TO EXPLOIT SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT IS SHOWING UP. YOU KNOW, THE LACK OF FINGERPRINTS ON THE GUN MIGHT NOT BE A BIG, SIGNIFICANT THINGS RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THEY WILL TRY TO LOOK AT THAT. THAT'S WHAT A DEFENSE ATTORNEY IS GOING TO DO. TRY TO EXPLOIT WHATEVER WEAKNESS IS IN THE CASE. >> HE IS CERTAINLY ENTITLED TO A DEFENSE, IF ONLY HE COULD FIND ONE. >> YES. >> BETH, LET ME GO BACK OUT TO YOU. THERE HAS BEEN A FAIR NUMBER OF WITNESSES WHO HAVE TESTIFIED CONSISTENTLY THAT THIS SEEMED TO BE A HAPPY, LOVING COUPLE, RIGHT? >> Reporter: YES. AND IF NEIL ENTWISTLE DID THIS, THERE ISN'T ANY EXPLANATION RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHY HE DID IT. I MEAN, THE JURY REALLY HASN'T HEARD THE FINANCIAL MOTIVE THE PROSECUTION CLAIMS AT LEAST IS IN PART RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS SNAPPING. NOR DID MICHAEL FABBRI IN HIS OPENING STATEMENT ADHERE TO THE BELIEF THAT MARTHA COAKLEY, THE FORMER D.A., NOW ATTORNEY GENERAL OF MASSACHUSETTS SAID AT THE TIME OF ENTWISTLE'S ARREST, WHICH IS THEY BELIEVE IT COULD HAVE BEEN A MURDER/SUICIDE PLAN AND THAT THE SUICIDE WASN'T CARRIED OUT. FABBRI DIDN'T MENTION THAT IN HIS OPENING. NOT SURE THEY BELIEVE THAT ANYMORE. THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY EXPLANATION IF NEIL ENTWISTLE DID THIS, WHY HE WOULD DO THIS. AND ELLIOT WEINSTEIN SAID IN HIS OPENING STATEMENT, WHICH WAS VERY BRIEF, HE DIDN'T REALLY PLAY HIS CARDS AND REVEAL THEM. HE SAID NOT EVERYTHING IS AS IT APPEARS TO BE. AND THE DEFENSE ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE BEEN ELICITING FROM MANY OF THE 26 WITNESSES SO FAR, THOSE WHO KNEW THE COUPLE, THAT IT WAS A HAPPY, DOTING, LOVING COUPLE. >> I KNOW THAT'S ELLIOT WEINSTEIN'S MANTRA. HE SAID IT IN HIS OPENING STATEMENT. HE SAID IT YESTERDAY ON CROSS-EXAMINATION OF ONE OF THE POLICE WITNESSES. SOMETIMES THINGS AREN'T WHAT THEY APPEAR TO BE, BUT MOST OF THE TIME THINGS ARE EXACTLY WHAT THEY APPEAR TO BE. LET'S PUT ASIDE THE LEGALITIES FOR JUST A MOMENT AND LET'S TALK ABOUT WHO IS WATCHING THIS CASE, WHO IS THERE IN THE GALLERY. THIS HAS TO BE SUCH AN EXCRUCIATING EXPERIENCE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE FAMILY MEMBERS ON BOTH SIDES. >> Reporter: YES, AND THERE ARE SUPPORTERS ON BOTH SIDES. NEIL ENTWISTLE HAILS FROM ENGLAND, SO HIS SUPPORT GROUP IS SORT OF LIMITED TO NOT JUST THE DEFENSE TEAM AND PEOPLE FROM THE DEFENSE OFFICE, BUT HIS THREE IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS. HIS MOTHER, YVONNE, FATHER CLIFFORD, BROTHER RUSSELL HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE MIDDLE OF LAST WEEK AND BEEN HERE EVERY DAY IN COURT. YVONNE ENTWISTLE DID LEAVE COURT SHORTLY AFTER IT BEGAN YESTERDAY MORNING WHEN THE TESTIMONY STARTED GETTING KIND OF GRAPHIC ABOUT FINDING THE BODIES, AND SHE WAS NOT IN THERE FOR ANY OF THAT. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COURTROOM, THE PROSECUTION SIDE N THE FIRST TWO ROWS ARE SUPPORTERS, FRIENDS AND FAMILY, OF RACHEL ENTWISTLE. HER MOTHER AND STEPFATHER HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE AND AFTER THE TESTIMONY. THEY WERE EXCEPTIONS TO THE WITNESS SEQUESTRATION RULE, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER FOLKS. SOME OF THE FACES CHANGE ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT WE KNOW SHE'S FROM THIS AREA AND SHE HAS A WIDE CIRCLE OF FRIENDS, AND SHE HAS SIX STEPBROTHERS AND SISTERS. >> AND IT'S A TESTAMENT TO WHO RACHEL ENTWISTLE WAS THAT SHE HAS SUCH A WIDE CIRCLE OF FRIENDS, AND ESPECIALLY HER GOOD FRIEND JOANNA GATELY WHO TESTIFIED IN THIS CASE WHO YOU JUST SAW IN THAT PICTURE WITH RACHEL'S PARENTS. AND THAT HAS TO BE SUCH A DIFFICULT THING FOR THEM TO SEE THEIR DAUGHTER'S FRIEND, SOMEBODY ROUGHLY THE SAME AGE AS THEIR DAUGHTER. THEIR DAUGHTER IS YOUNG, 27 YEARS OLD WHEN SHE WAS MURDERED. CARMEN ST. GEORGE, WHEN WE HEARD THE TESTIMONY OF JOANNA GATELY, RAICH 'EM'S FRIEND THE OTHER DAY, IT STRUCK ME WHAT A JUXTAPOSITION FOR JOANNA GATELY, SHE IMMEDIATELY SNAPS INTO ACTION, CALLS THE POLICE, WALKS THROUGH THE HOUSE WITH THE POLICE, AND THEN SITS IN HER CAR ALL NIGHT ON A JANUARY BOSTON NIGHT, IT'S ALL SNOWY AND COLD. SHE SITS IN THE CAR ALL NIGHT WAITING TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IS HER FRIEND GOING TO COME HOME? IS EVERYTHING OKAY? UNTIL THE FOLLOWING MORNING, LEAVING ONLY FOR A COUPLE BATHROOM RUNS OFF SOMEWHERE. COMPARE THAT TO NEIL ENTWISTLE. THERE SHE IS. A LOVELY YOUNG WOMAN. COMPARE THAT TO NEIL ENTWISTLE WHO FINDS THEM MURDERED AND RUNS OFF AND DOESN'T DO A THING TO HELP. >> IT'S THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY, THOSE TYPE OF ACTIONS SHOW WHAT NATURAL RESPONSES ARE. SHE EVEN WENT AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO LOOK FOR THEIR BMW. SHE STAYED THE NIGHT LOOKING, AND THEN CONTACTED THE NEIGHBORS AND WAS ALLOWED INTO THE HOUSE BY THE USE OF THE CODE THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAD. THAT'S SOMEBODY WHO REALLY CARES TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. SOMEBODY TO FIND OUT WHERE HER FRIEND IS. NOT A HUSBAND WHO FLIES OFF TO ENG LANE AND THEN STARTS LOOKING OUT FOR ESCORTS FOR SEX AND TO SELL HIS STORY AND FOR EX-GIRLFRIENDS. NONE OF WHAT HE DID, AND IT'S GOING TO COME OUT IN THE TESTIMONY, MAKES SENSE AS TO WHAT A NATURAL GRIEVING SPOUSE WOULD DO. >> AND YOU THINK JOANNA GATELY WASN'T TRAUMATIZED? YOU THINK SHE'S NOT UPSET? HER FRIEND ISN'T THERE FOR A DINNER PARTY. HOURS GO BY, IT'S 2:00 A.M., 3:00 A.M. SHE KNOWS SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG? YOU THINK SHE'S NOT TRAUMATIZED. SHE HANGS IN THERE AND SHE'S ONLY A FRIEND, NOT EVEN A SPOUSE. TIME TO LOOK AT OUR 13th JUROR QUESTION. ARE THE CRIME SCENE PHOTOS HELPING THE PROSECUTION? JUST LOGON TO CNN.COM/CRIME AND CLICK ON 13th JUROR TO CAST YOUR VOTE. LATER IN THE SHOW WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT HOW YOU'RE VOTING, SO STAY WITH US. >>> THERE'S STILL TIME TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS IN TO "OPEN COURT" AND ANSWER OUR QUESTION OF THE DAY. WHAT DOES THE CRIME SCENE TELL US? WHAT MIGHT THE JURY THINK OF THE LIGHTS AND THE TV LEFT ON AND THE BATH WATER STILL IN THE TUB. JUST LOGON TO CNN.COM/CRIME AND CLICK ON OPEN COURT OR E-MAIL US DIRECTLY AT OPENCOURT@CNN.COM. THOSE CRIME SCENE CLUES ARE COMING IN THROUGHOUT THIS TRIAL. WE EXPECT LIVE TESTIMONY TO GET UNDER WAY SHORTLY N THE MEANTIME, I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOME IMPORTANT TESTIMONY FROM YESTERDAY. THIS IS SERGEANT MICHAEL SUTTON FROM THE HOPKINTON POLICE DEPARTMENT TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE FOUND WHEN HE WENT UPSTAIRS IN THE HOME. TAKE A LISTEN. >> WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DID YOU AND OFFICER O'NEIL DECIDE TO DO NEXT, SIR? >> I THEN ASKED HIM TO GO DOWN INTO THE BASEMENT AND MOSTLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF CHECKING THE GARAGE, SEE IF THE CAR WAS IN THERE WHILE I WENT UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR AND TOOK A LOOK IN THE BEDROOMS. >> DID YOU SEE OFFICER O'NEIL HEAD IN THE DIRECTION OF THE BASEMENT? >> YES. >> DESCRIBE THE ROUTE YOU TOOK TO GET THE TO SECOND FLOOR. >> THE STAIRCASE LEAVES THE FOYER AND TURNS AT A RIGHT ANGLE AND TEMP EMPTIES OUT INTO A HALLWAY. >> WHAT IF ANY OBSERVATIONS DID YOU MAKE WHEN YOU GOT UP TO THE TOP OF THE SECOND FLOOR LANDING? >> THERE APPEARED TO BE FOUR BEDROOMS AND A BATHROOM. THE FIRST BEDROOM I CAME TO WHICH WAS ON MY IMMEDIATE RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS WAS THE ONE THAT HAD THE MUSIC PLAYING IN IT THAT I COULD HEAR FROM DOWNSTAIRS. >> DID YOU DO ANYTHING WITH THAT MUSIC? >> NO. >> WHEN YOU WERE DOWNSTAIRS AND NOTICED THE TV ON, DID YOU DO ANYTHING WITH THAT? >> NO. >> WHAT DID YOU DO NEXT AFTER GETTING TO THE TOP OF THE STAIRS, MAKING NOTE OF THE MUSE SNIK. >> WHAT DID I DO AFTER I MADE NOTE OF THE MUSIC? >> RIGHT. >> I LOOKED INTO THAT ROOM FIRST. >> DID YOU SEE ANYTHING IN THERE? >> NO. IT APPEARED TO BE A BABY'S ROOM BUT THERE WERE NO PEOPLE IN IT. >> WHERE DID YOU GO NEXT? >> I WENT STRAIGHT AHEAD. THERE WERE TWO BEDROOMS STRAIGHT AHEAD FROM THE TOP OF THE STAIRS. NEITHER APPEARED TO BE THE MATHSER BEDROOM. NEITHER APPEARED TO ACTUALLY BE BEING USED AT THAT TIME. IT APPEARED THEY HADN'T FINISHED UNPACKING. I LOOKED IN EACH OF THOSE ROOMS AS WELL. >> DID YOU FIND ANYBODY IN THOSE ROOMS? >> NO. >> WHERE DID YOU GO NEXT? LOOKED INTO THE BATHROOM. >> WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DID YOU SEE IN THERE? >> THERE WAS NO ONE IN THERE. >> DID YOU LOOK IN THE TUB AREA? >> YES. >> WHAT DID YOU SEE IN THERE? >> THE TUB STILL HAD WATER IN IT AND IT APPEARED THEY HAD BEEN GIVING THE BABY A BATH. >> WHERE DID YOU GO NEXT? >> TO THE MASTER BEDROOM DOOR. DESCRIBE HOW YOU GOT THERE FROM THE BATHROOM. >> WITH THE BATHROOM DOOR TO MY RIGHT, IT'S STRAIGHT AHEAD SEVERAL FEET. >> DID YOU ENTER THAT BEDROOM? >> YES, I DID. >> HOW FAR DID YOU ENTER THAT BEDROOM? >> JUST ONE STEP, LIKE THE OTHER ROOMS. >> AND DESCRIBE WHAT YOU COULD SEE WHEN YOU STEPPED INTO THAT BEDROOM. >> STEPPING INTO THE BEDROOM I COULD SEE AROUND THE OPEN BEDROOM DOOR. THERE'S A BATHROOM IMMEDIATELY TO THE RIGHT. I COULD SEE INTO THE BATHROOM. >> WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DID YOU SEE IN THE BATHROOM? >> I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE BATHROOM. >> ANY PERSONS IN THERE? >> NO. >> WERE YOU ABLE TO SCAN THE BALANCE OF THE ROOM FROM WHERE YOU WERE? >> YES. >> DESCRIBE WHAT YOU COULD SEE. >> THERE WAS A LARGE BED IN THE CENTER OF THE ROOM. IT WAS UNMADE. IT LOOKED AS IF ALL THE BEDDING HAD JUST BEEN PILED UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BED. DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE ANYONE IN THE ROOM. NOTHING LOOKED OUT OF PLACE OTHER THAN THE BED BEING MESSY. >> WHAT DID YOU DO NEXT? >> I THEN RETURNED DOWN TO THE FOYER. >> ANY LIGHTS ON IN THAT MASTER BEDROOM? >> YES. THERE WAS A LAMP ON IN THE MAST ARE BEDROOM. >> WHAT ABOUT THE BALANCE OF THE UPSTAIRS? DO YOU RECALL WHETHER ANY LIGHTS WERE ON? >> THERE WAS ENOUGH LIGHT UP THERE I DID NOT HAVE TO USE A FLASHLIGHT TO WALK AROUND THE HOUSE. I DON'T RECALL WHAT OTHER SPECIFIC LIGHTS WERE ON OTHER THAN THE LAMP IN THE MASTER BEDROOM AND THE LIGHT ON IN THE BABY'S ROOM. >> AND THAT WAS SERGEANT MICHAEL SUTTON TESTIFYING YESTERDAY AS TO PRECISELY WHAT HE FOUND IN THAT FOUR-BEDROOM HOME, LIGHTS ON, MUSIC PLAYING IN THE BABY'S ROOM, AND WATER RUN IN THE BATH. LET ME SHOW YOU A LIVE PICTURE OF THE COURTROOM. WE'RE WAITING FOR PROCEEDINGS TO GET UNDER WAY. THE ATTORNEYS ARE STILL OVER THERE AT THEIR SIDE BAR. LET ME BRING IN PETER OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE WITH US IN MASSACHUSETTS. THIS IS A FOUR-BEDROOM HOME. THE COUPLE DRIVES A BMW. THEY'RE BOTH IN THEIR 20s. THEY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY COMING IN. YOU KNOW, RACHEL ENTWISTLE, I MEAN I NEVER WOULD WANT TO BLAME THE VICTIM IN ANY WAY, BUT CERTAINLY SHE HAD TO BE AWARE THAT SOMETHING WAS A LITTLE OFF. THEY WERE SPENDING WELL BEYOND THEIR MEANS. >> YEAH, UNLESS HE HAD HER SNOWED. UNLESS HE KEPT TELLING HER, I GOT MONEY IN OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS AND HE'S SOME KIND OF SECRET AGENT FOR THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT AND THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH MONEY. PERHAPS THAT'S ONE THING. IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE SUSPICIOUS. I WOULD BE PANICKED IF I WAS OUT OF WORK, LIVING ON CREDIT CARDS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I RENT THIS EXPENSIVE PLACE AND I BUY FURNITURE ON CREDIT AND THE DEBTS ARE MOUNTING AND THE -- I THINK EVERY WAKING MOMENT I WOULD BE JUST WAKING IN PANIC AND THAT'S -- THAT MAY HAVE REALLY SORT OF DRIVEN HIM TO THE EDGE, AND HERE IS ONE THEORY THAT I HAVE THAT WE TALK ABOUT, WELL, HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GAIN BY KILLING HER EVEN THOUGH HE WAS IN DEBT. THERE'S NO INSURANCE. HE CAN'T MAKE ANY MONEY FROM IT. I WONDER IF IT WAS A SHAME THING, THAT HE WAS ABOUT TO BE EXPOSED. HE HAD BEEN TELLING EVERYBODY FOR MONTHS NO PROBLEM WITH MONEY AND HE WAS ABOUT TO BE EXPOSED AS A COMPLETE CON ARTIST BASICALLY. >> WELL, AND BETH KARAS, THAT IS PART OF THE PROSECUTION'S THEORY. THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO IT YET IN THE PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE, BUT PART OF THE THEORY IS THAT NEIL ENTWISTLE WAS PRETENDING TO BE MUCH MORE FINANCIALLY THAN HE REALLY WAS. >> Reporter: WELL, YES. PRISCILLA MATTERAZZO DID TELL THE POLICE -- I CAN'T REMEMBER IF SHE TESTIFIED TO IT, WHAT HER DAUGHTER TOLD HER. I GUESS SHE DIDN'T TESTIFY TO IT. BUT SHE TOLD THE POLICE AND IT'S IN AN AFFIDAVIT THAT RACHEL TOLD HER THEY HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY THAT HOPKINTON HOUSE OUTRIGHT, AND THAT WAS $450,000, $500,000 OR TO PUT DOWN A SIGNIFICANT DOWN PAYMENT BUT THEIR MONEY WAS TIED UP IN OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS AND NEIL HAD REASSURED HER REPEATEDLY THAT THEY WERE FINANCIALLY SECURE. THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR MONEY AND THAT APPARENTLY IS JUST ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. >> I WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE THE COURTROOM. THEY HAVE JUST TAKEN A BRIEF RECESS. THE PROCEEDINGS HAVE NOT YET BEGUN FOR THE DAY. THERE WAS A SIDE BAR FOR THE LAST 15, 20 MINUTES OR SO. A JUROR IS LATE. WHEN THAT JUROR GETS INTO COURT, I'M SURE LIVE TESTIMONY WILL GET UNDER WAY. JUST QUICKLY TO YOU, GWEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING IF THE HUSBAND IS PRETENDING TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY AND HE'S SPENDING A LOT OF IT ON THE SIDE, ON PROSTITUTES ALLAH ELIOT SPITZER OR GAMBLING, BUT HERE IT SEEMS THE SPENDING WAS RIGHT OUT IN THE OPEN, RIGHT IN FRONT OF RACHEL AND THE FAMILY MEMBERS, THE SPENDING ON THIS EXPENSIVE HOME AND ON THE CAR AMONG OTHER THINGS. >> YEAH. THAT'S KIND OF ODD, BUT IT JUST -- IT KIND OF GOES TO ONE OF THE THEORIES THAT THE OTHER GENTLEMAN MENTIONED, AND THAT IT COULD BE HE WAS TRYING, YOU KNOW, TO PRESENT THIS IMAGE THAT HE WAS -- HE HAD MONEY AND HE DIDN'T HAVE A CARE IN THE WORLD AND POSSIBLY DID NOT WANT HIS WIFE TO KNOW THE TRUTH BECAUSE, AGAIN, RACHEL THOUGHT THEY HAD MONEY. >> ONCE YOU GET MARRIED THOUGH, I THINK -- >> THAT'S JUST -- >> YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ASK. I THINK YOU'RE ALLOWED TO LOOK AT RECORDS. YOU'RE ALLOWED TO LOOK AT BANK RECORDS. YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PURSUE IT AND MAYBE SHE JUST DIDN'T, SHE TRUSTED HIM. NEIL ENTWISTLE IS ACCUSED OF FATALLY SHOOTING HIS WIFE AND 9-MONTH-OLD DAUGHTER. ENTWISTLE CLAIMED HE FOUND THEM DEAD AND FLED TO ENGLAND IN A STATE OF CONFUSION. HE'S BECOME A NAME ON A LIST OF SPOUSES CHARGED WITH MURDERING THEIR OTHERS. SCOTT PETERSON. PETERSON ADMITTED TO HAVING AN EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIR BUT DENIED ANY INVOLVEMENT IN HIS WIFE'S DISAPPEARANCE. HE WAS ULTIMATELY FOUND GUILT WHY AND IS ON DOET ROW. LAST WINTER WE BROUGHT YOU THE TRIAL OF MARK JENSEN. THE DEFENSE MAINTAINED JULIE COMMITTED SUICIDE AND TRIED TO FRAME HER HUSBAND FOR MURDER. >> IT WAS THIS A-HA KIND OF MOMENT WHERE THEY MOVED FORWARD THAT THIS HAD TO BE A HOMICIDE BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NO REASONABLE EXPLANATION, AND THEN THIS CASE PROCEEDED FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS UNTIL THE DEFENSE EXPERTS CAME IN WITH THEIR REPORTS AND POINTED OUT, NO, IT'S JUST A HALF A TEASPOON OF ETHYLENE GLYCOL, AND THIS EASILY COULD BE FROM A SINGLE INGESTION OR IT COULD BE RESIDUAL, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT SHOWS THAT THAT IS NOT A SUICIDE. THERE'S NOTHING THAT SHOWS THAT THIS IS A HOMICIDE. >> THE JURY DIDN'T AGREE WITH THE DEFENSE THEORY AND CONVICTED JENSEN OF FIRST-DEGREE MURDER. HE'S NOW SERVING LIFE IN PRISON WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE. AND, OF COURSE, ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS CASES WAS THE TRIAL OF O.J. SIMPSON. THE HALL OF FAME FOOTBALL PLAYER WAS ACCUSED OF MURDERING HIS EX-WIFE, NICOLE BROWN SIMPSON, AND HER FRIEND RON GOLDMAN. AFTER AN EIGHT-MONTH TRIAL, IT TOOK THE JURY LESS THAN FOUR HOURS TO REACH A VERDICT. >> WE SHTH THE JURY, IN THE ABOVE ENTITLED ATION FIND THE DEFENDANT ORENTHAL JAMES SIMPSON NOT GUILTY OF THE CRIME OF MURDER IN VIOLATION OF THE PENAL CODE. >> SIMPSON WAS ACQUITTED OF MURDER BUT LOST THE CIVIL SUIT BROUGHT BY THE VICTIM'S FAMILIES. CARMEN ST. GEORGE, WHAT DO PEOPLE HAVE AGAINST DIVORCE? IS IT REALLY SO TERRIBLE THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE THE LAW INTO THEIR OWN HANDS? >> I THINK, LISA, I THINK SPEAKING NOT FROM EXPERIENCE SINCE I HAVE NOT BEEN DIVORCED, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THIS HAS TO STEM FROM THE IDEA THAT MEN THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE FOOTBALL -- FINANCIALLY BANKRUPT BY THEIR SPOUSE. I THINK MOST OF THE CASES ARE MEN KILLING THEIR WIVES WHEN THERE'S THIS FINANCIAL MOTIVE OR IN THIS CASE THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL SEX MOTIVE, AND SEX CRAZE. BUT WHEN I THINK OF SCOTT PETERSON AND ESPECIALLY O.J. SIMPSON, YOU'VE GOT THESE STRONG CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE CASES, BUT THEY REALLY HAVE TO BE PROVEN TO THIS JURY, AND WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS CASE OF ENTWISTLE IN FRONT OF US HERE, THE CASE HAS TO BE PROVEN TO THE JURY, AND THE TESTIMONY THAT WE JUST HEARD FROM SERGEANT SUTTON I THINK HAS TO BE CLARIFIED TO THE JURY AS TO WHY HE DIDN'T REALLY LOOK UNDER THE BED SHEETS. I THINK IT'S A STRONG CIRCUMSTANTIAL CASE, BUT I THINK THAT HAS TO BE SOMEWHAT EXPLAINED TO THE JURY BECAUSE MY RESPONSE SITTING AS A JUROR WOULD BE ISN'T IT COMMON TO LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CLOSET, UNDERNEATH A BED, OR CERTAINLY UNDER THESE COVERS THAT SEEMED TO BE IN A RUFFLE ON THE FAMILY BED WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A BODY OR YOU'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE? SO I THINK IT'S ALL IN THE PROOF, AND THE PROSECUTION REALLY HAS TO LAY IT OUT AND CONNECT THE DOTS WITH CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE CASES. >> WELL, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IT REMINDS ME OF PLAYING HIDE AND GO SEEK WITH MY KIDS. THE FIRST PLACE YOU LOOK IS UNDER THE SHEETS. THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE TEND TO HIDE, AND I THINK IT'S JUST HUMAN ERROR. I THINK THE ONLY EXPLANATION IS HUMANerOR. THE PLACE SAY WE WERE DOING A WELLNESS CHECK. I THINK IF THEY WERE BEING HONEST THEY WOULD SAY WE MADE A MISTAKE. WE DIDN'T LOOK THERE. WE SHOULD HAVE LOOKED THERE. ON THIS ISSUE OF SPOUSES KILLING SPOUSES. O.J. WAS ALREADY DIVORCED AT THE TIME HE ALLEGEDLY KILLED HIS EX-WIFE. BUT IN THIS CASE, THE COUPLE IS MARRIED, THEY SEEM HAPPY BY ALL ACCOUNTS. HE'S NOT GETTING ANY MONEY FROM INSURANCE OR ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE MURDER OF HIS WIFE. HE DOESN'T HAVE A GIRLFRIEND OR MISTRESS AS FAR AS WE KNOW, ALTHOUGH HE HAS SOME INTERNET ACTIVITY ON PORN SITES AND WITH ESCORT SERVICES. SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OTHER SPOUSAL MURDER CASES WE HAVE SEEN. >> YES, IT IS. I THINK IN THE SENSE OF THIS CASE IT COULD BE THAT THEY SEEMED HAPPY BECAUSE THERE WAS A RUSE. THE YOUNG LADY THOUGHT THEY HAD MONEY, AND THE YOUNG MAN FELT HE WAS STILL PULLING IT OVER ON HER. I WOULD ASSUME IT WOULD BE QUITE DEVASTATING IF EVERYTHING WAS FALLING APART, ALL THE CREDIT CARD BILLS ARE STARTING TO COME DUE AND HE HAS TO EVENTUALLY TELL HIS WIFE HE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR THIS HOUSE. THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THAT HOUSE. THERE COULD HAVE BEEN AN ARGUMENT. THERE COULD HAVE BEEN THE ISSUE OF THE GUN, WHO FIRED IT, WHO HAD IT. THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A FIGHT, A STRUGGLE. WE DON'T KNOW. I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S A CLEAR-CUT CASE HE CAME IN AND JUST WAS DEVASTATED AND SHOT HIS WIFE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT HE IS HONEST WITH HIS EXPLANATION IN TERMS OF, WELL, I JUST FOUND THEM THERE AND THEN I JUST FLED. I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HE'S NOT BEING HONEST ABOUT, BUT TO SAY THAT HE JUST WENT THERE, YOU KNOW, HE SHOT HIS WIFE AND HE LEFT, I THINK THAT THE CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AROUND THAT MAY NOT BE SUPPORTING THAT ISSUE. I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE IS SOMETHING MISSING. THE THEORY OF WHAT HAPPENED STILL IS NOT VERY CLEAR. >> YEAH, WELL, HE WAS PLAYING SECRET AGENT MAN AND MAYBE HIS WIFE GOT WISE TO IT OR THEY HAD A DISCUSSION AND HE HAD TO COME CLEAN AND IT WAS SO PAINFUL TO HIM, BUT BETH KARAS, THIS HAD TO BE PREMEDITATED IF NEIL ENTWISTLE IS THE KILLER BECAUSE HE HAD TO GO AND GET THE GUN BEFORE THE SHOOTING, RIGHT? >> YES. IF HE'S THE KILLER, HE GOT THE GUN I THINK ON ONE OF TWO OCCASIONS, EITHER THAT MONDAY BEFORE THE KILLINGS. THE KILLINGS WERE ON A FRIDAY BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAST TIME HE AND RACHEL WERE AT THE MATTERAZZO HOME, AT LEAST HE COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT THEN. I GUESS HE COULD HAVE GONE DURING THE DAY DURING THE WEEK WHEN JOE AND PRISCILLA WERE NOT HOME AND WERE AT WORK. HE HAD KEYS TO THE HOUSE. SO AT SOME POINT THAT WEEK. JOE MATTERAZZO WOULD TAKE HIS GUNS TO THE GUN CLUB ALMOST EVERY SATURDAY. MATTERAZZO WOULD HAVE NOTICED A A GUN WAS MISSING BY SATURDAY. SO IF NEIL ENTWISTLE DID IT, HE TOOK THE GUN SOMETIME THE DAY OF OR IN THAT WEEK, AND THEN RETURNED IT AND ALSO TOOK THE AMMUNITION. THE AMMUNITION HE MIGHT HAVE TAKEN EARLIER. >> BUT HE HAD TO GO AND GET THE GUN TO ANOTHER HOME MILES AND MILES AWAY. IT'S NOT AS THOUGH HE JUST WENT TO THE CLOSET IN THE MOMENT OF PASSION. HE HAD TO GO AND GET IT, BRING IT BACK, AND HOLD IT AND RETAIN IT, AND THAT SHOWS A HIGH LEVEL OF PREMEDITATION. AS THIS MURDER TRIAL UNFOLDS, WE'RE HEARING POLICE, FAMILY, AND FRIENDS DESCRIBE THE DESPERATE SEARCH FOR RACHEL AND LILLIAN ENTWISTLE. THERE'S MORE LIVE TESTIMONY COMING UP AHEAD. STAY TUNED. >> WHAT DID YOU DO NEXT? >> WE MAY HAVE CIRCLED THE HOUSE AGAIN EVENTUALLY WENT BACK TO THE CAR. I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH PRISCILLA MOST OF THE NIGHT. >> AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME DID SOMEBODY ELSE ARRIVE AT 6 CUBS PATH? >> AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME PRISCILLA DECIDED TO CALL THE POLICE. >>> DESCRIBE YOUR OBSERVATIONS OF RACHEL WHEN YOU PULLED THAT SHEET BACK. >> YES. SHE WAS LAYING ON HER LEFT SIDE. I BELIEVE HER FEET WERE CURLED UP A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS THE BODY. SHE HAD ON WHAT APPEARED TO BE PAJAMAS, SHORTS AND A TOP. APPEARED TO BE PAJAMAS. AGAIN, SHE WAS LAYING ON HER LEFT SIDE. HER FACE WAS SOMEWHAT DOWNWARD AND HER RIGHT ARM WAS OVER OR ACROSS THE INFANT VICTIM, LILLIAN. >> SO IT SEEMS FROM WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE CRIME SCENE THAT THIS MURDER EITHER HAD TO OCCUR EARLY IN THE MORNING OR LATE AT NIGHT SINCE RACHEL ENTWISTLE IS WEARING PAJAMAS. THE BATH WAS RUN. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO FIND OUT MORE NFTHS ABOUT WHAT THEIR HABITS WERE. DID THE BABY USUALLY GET A BATH IN THE MORNING, AT NIGHT? WAS THERE A PATTERN TO IT. PERHAPS WE'LL GET MORE INFORMATION LIKE THAT AS THE TRIAL PROCEEDS. WE ARE WAITING FOR A LATE JUROR. THAT'S WHY THE COURT ISN'T UNDER WAY AS WE SPEAK. THAT JUROR WILL BE ARRIVING PROBABLY WITHIN A HALF HOUR OR HOUR. SO WE'LL CATCH YOU UP ON SOME OF THE IMPORTANT TESTIMONY IN THIS CASE SO FAR. JOANNA GATELY WAS A WITNESS WHO WAS A FRIEND OF RACHEL ENTWISTLE'S, A GOOD FRIEND OF RACHEL ENTWISTLE'S. SHE DESCRIBED ON DIRECT EXAMINATION WHAT SHE WENT THROUGH SHOWING UP FOR A DINNER, HER FRIEND WASN'T THERE, NOBODY WAS THERE. SHE KNOCKED ON THE DOOR, CALLED THE POLICE, AND EVENTUALLY WAITED OUTSIDE ALL NIGHT WAITING FOR HER FRIEND WHO NEVER CAME. ON CROSS-EXAMINATION SHE WENT THROUGH THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT HAPPENED ONCE AGAIN. TAKE A LISTEN. >> WHEN YOU SPOKE TO OFFICER SUTTON ON JANUARY 21st AT ABOUT 8:31 P.M., YOU TOLD HIM THAT YOU WOULD BE THERE AT 5:00 P.M. BUT ARRIVED LATE AT ABOUT 7:00 P.M. THOSE WERE YOUR WORDS, RIGHT? >> OBJECTION. >> SUSTAINED. >> DID YOU TELL OFFICER SUTTON THAT YOU WERE TO BE HERE AT 5:00 P.M. BUT ARRIVED LATE AT ABOUT 7:00 P.M. >> I TOLD HIM I WAS LATE. >> AND YOU DIDN'T TELL HIM ANYTHING ABOUT A WINDOW BETWEEN 4:00 AND 7:00, DID YOU? >> I DON'T KNOW. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THIS REPORT AGAIN? >> I BELIEVE I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS 20 MINUTES LATE. >> 20 MINUTES LATE? >> YES. >> YOU TOLD HIM THAT YOU WERE TO BE HERE AT 5:00 P.M. AND ARRIVED LATE AT ABOUT 7:00 P.M. >> OBJECTION. >> SUSTAINED. >> ARE YOU SURE? ABOUT TELLING OFFICER SUTTON YOU ARRIVED 20 MINUTES LATE? >> OBJECTION. >> THE WITNESS MAY ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >> I AM NOT SURE WHAT I SAID TO HIM THAT NIGHT. >> IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. >> I AM NOT SURE WHAT I SAID TO HIM THAT NIGHT. >> AND THAT WAS BEFORE -- THIS WAS JUST THE FIRST TIME THE POLICE OFFICERS CAME TO THE HOUSE? >> YES. >> AND THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU ALL WERE IN THE HOUSE AND THE POLICE OFFICER IN THAT HOUSE AND THEY WALKED AROUND THE HOUSE AND LEFT THE HOUSE BECAUSE NOTHING APPEARED TO BE WRONG? RIGHT? >> YES. >> AND WHEN OFFICER SUTTON WAS ASKING YOU QUESTIONS, YOU ANSWERED THEM AS BEST AS YOU COULD AT THE TIME? >> YES. >> NOW, BEFORE THE POLICE CAME ON SATURDAY NIGHT, YOU TOLD US THAT REGARDLESS OF HOW LATE YOU WERE, YOU AGREE THAT YOU WERE LATE? >> YES. >> OKAY. AND YOU ARRIVED LATE, AND YOU AND YOUR SISTER KNOCK ON THE DOOR AND NOBODY ANSWERS, IS THAT RIGHT? >> RIGHT. >> AND IT'S COLD OUTSIDE. IT'S JANUARY, RIGHT? >> YES. >> YES. AND THE SUN HAS GONE DOWN SO IT'S DARK, RIGHT? >> YES. >> AND SO YOU AND YOUR SISTER WALK AROUND THE BACK OF THE HOUSE CHECKING, TRYING TO LOOK IN, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES. >> AND YOU GO ONE WAY AND YOUR SISTER GOES ANOTHER WAY, RIGHT? >> YES. >> AND YOU TRY TO OPEN DOORS? >> YES. >> YOU TRY TO LOOK INSIDE? >> YES. >> AND ALL YOU KNOW NOW IS THAT YOU HAVE JUST ARRIVED LATE FOR DINNER, IS THAT RIGHT? >> NO. >> YOU HAVE ARRIVED LATE FOR DINNER -- >> YES. >> OKAY. >> AND BECAUSE NOBODY ANSWERED THE DOOR YOU WENT TO ALL -- YOU DID ALL OF THESE THINGS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING, RIGHT? >> YES. >> AND YOU CIRCUMSTANCE KLGED THE HOUSE MAYBE ONCE OR MAYBE MORE TIMES, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES. >> YOU EVEN TRIED I BELIEVE YOU SAID TO USE YOUR OWN CREDIT CARD TO OPEN THE FRONT DOOR? >> YES. >> BUT THAT DIDN'T WORK, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES. >> AND IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT WHEN -- AFTER YOU ARRIVED LATE FOR DINNER AND NOBODY ANSWERED THE DOOR, THAT YOU BECAME DISTRESSED OR VERY CONCERNED, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHEN ULTIMATELY THE POLICE ARRIVED AT 6 CUBS PATH, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES. >> EVENTUALLY THE POLICE COME? >> YES. >> AND THAT'S AT ABOUT 8:31 P.M. >> YES. >> AND THAT'S WITH OFFICER SUTTON, RIGHT, AND ANOTHER OFFICER, RIGHT? >> YES. >> OKAY. SO YOU SAW HOW THE POLICE USED THEIR OWN BLOCKBUSTER CARD TO JIMMY OPEN THE DOOR, RIGHT? >> YES. >> AND YOU HAD TOLD THEM WHAT YOU HAD DONE DURING THE TIME AFTER YOU HAD GOTTEN THERE TO TRY TO CHECK OUT TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING WRONG? >> YES. >> AND THAT'S WHEN YOU ALL ENDED UP GOING INTO PARTS OF THE HOUSE, IS THAT RIGHT? >> I DID NOT ENTER AT THAT TIME. >> YOU ENTERED AT SOME POINT TO GO TEND TO SALLY, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES. >> AND SALLY WAS TENDED FOR? >> YES. >> FED, TAKEN OUT TO DO HER BUSINESS, RIGHT? >> I JUST BROUGHT HER TO GO TO THE BATHROOM. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. SO THAT WAS JOANNA GATELY ON THE STAND, AND SALLY WAS THE ENTWISTLES FAMILY DOG. THE DOG THAT WAS JUST LEFT THERE AT THE CRIME SCENE, NOT TENDED TO. YOU KNOW, PETER, IF THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS IS CORRECT, THIS MAN IS A MONSTER. NOT ONLY DOES HE SHOOT AND KILL HIS YOUNG WIFE, COMPLETELY INNOCENT YOUNG WOMAN, HIS 9-MONTH-OLD BABY, BUT HE LEAVES THE DOG THERE TO STARVE TO DEATH. >> YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT. IF ANYTHING UPSETS PEOPLE MORE IT'S MISTREATMENT OF DOGS. I'VE SEEN THIS IN TRIAL AGAIN AND AGAIN. I ONCE REPRESENTED A GUY ACCUSED OF RUNNING INTO A BURNING HOUSE WHEN THE COPS TRIED TO PREVENT HIM FROM GETTING HIS DOG. THE JUDGE WENT TO THE POLICE AND SAID YOU NEED TO DROP THESE CHARGES. MY OWN WIFE WOULD FIND THIS GUY NOT GUILTY. SOMETHING ABOUT DOG SINCERELY EVEN MORE POWERFUL THAN ANY OTHER KIND OF MURDER. >> I'M WITH YOU, I'M WITH YOU. THAT'S THE KIND OF DETAIL THAT CAN REALLY SES NONE NATE WITH THE JURY. IT RESONATES WITH ME. COME ON. WE'RE TAKING A SHORT BREAK. YOU CAN TAKE A MOMENT TO WRITE TO US AND ANSWER OUR QUESTION OF THE DAY. WHAT DOES THE CRIME SCENE TELL US? YOU PUT THE CLUES TOGETHER. LOGON TO CNN.COM/CRIME AND CLICK ON OPEN COURT OR E-MAIL US DIRECTLY AT OPENCOURT@CNN.COM. I HAVE SOME THEORIES OF MY OWN. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. >>> I LIKED NEIL A LOT HE WAS PART OF THE FAMILY. >> WHAT ABOUT YOUR OBSERVATIONS OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DEFENDANT AND RACHEL? >> THEY HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP. >> AND WHAT ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH LILY? >> SAME. >> BUT NOW A SEEMINGLY DEVOTED HUSBAND AND FATHER IS ON TRIAL FOR THE MURDERS OF HIS WIFE AND 9-MONTH-OLD BABY. WELCOME BACK TO OPEN COURT. I'M LISA BLOOM. NEIL ENTWISTLE STANDS ACCUSED OF FAYE TALLY SHOOTING HIS WIFE RHLING AND DAUGHTER LILLIAN. THEY WERE FOUND DEAD IN THEIR MASSACHUSETTS HOME IN JANUARY OF 2006. ENTWISTLE WAS ARRESTED AFTER FLEEING TO ENGLAND. HE COULD FACE LIFE IN PRISON IF CONVICTED OF MURDER. THE TRIAL IS GETTING OFF TO A LITTLE BIT OF A LATE START TODAY. CORRESPONDENT BETH CARA JOINS US ONCE AGAIN LIVE FROM MASSACHUSETTS WITH THE LATEST. WHAT'S THE DELAY, BETH? >> Reporter: THE MESSAGES I'M GETTING OUT OF THE COURTROOM, OBVIOUSLY I HAVEN'T BEEN UP THERE, I'VE BEEN HERE WITH YOU, IS THAT A JUROR IS DELAYED AND THE COURT IS NOT GOING TO BEGIN UNTIL AT LEAST 10:45. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THERE'S BEEN A DELAY IN THE CASE. THIS IS DAY FIVE AND THE JURORS HAVE BEEN PUNCTUAL. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REASON IS. THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. THERE WAS A LENGTHY SIDE BAR THAT APPARENTLY DIDN'T DEAL WITH THE JURY DELAY. IT DEALT WITH OTHER MATTERS. >> GIVE US A SENSE OF THE IMPORTANT TESTIMONY YESTERDAY. THE JURORS GOT A GOOD SENSE OF THE CRIME SCENE. WHAT WERE THE HIGHLIGHTS? >> Reporter: YESTERDAY WAS A HALF DAY. EVERY WEDNESDAY COURT IS GOING TO BE IN SESSION FROM 9:00 TO 1:00 ONLY. THREE WITNESSES TOOK THE STAND BUT THE THIRD WITNESS WILL BE BACK ON THE STANDSTILL UNDER DIRECT EXAMINATION WHEN THE COURT RESUMES. SHE'S THE MASSACHUSETTS STATE SERGEANT AND SHE WAS PART OF THE CRIME SCENE UNIT WHO PROCESSED THE SCENE, PRIMARILY THE MASTER BEDROOM. BEFORE SHE TESTIFIED ABOUT FINGERPRINTS, ABOUT UNCOVERING OF THE BODIES FROM THE BED, SERGEANT MICHAEL SUTTON OF THE HOPKINTON POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD TESTIFIED. HE TALKED ABOUT ACTUALLY FINDING THE BODIES. SOMETIME IN THE EARLY EVENING ON SUNDAY, JANUARY 22nd, HE ENCOUNTERED A VERY FOUL ODOR IN THE HOUSE THAT HAD NOT BEEN THERE THE DAY BEFORE WHEN HE DID A CURSORY WALK-THROUGH WELL BEING CHECK. HE FOLLOWED THE ODOR TO THE MASTER BEDROOM AND LIFTED THE COMFORTER WHICH HE THOUGHT WAS JUST A BIG PUFFY COMFORTER ON AN UNMADE BED. IN FACT, THERE WERE TWO BODIES ON IT. HE LIFTED A CORNER, SAW A FOOT, WENT TO THE OPPOSITE CORNER AND SAW THE HEADS. LEFT EVERYTHING INTACT AND WAITED FOR THE CRIME SCENE TO COME. THE JURY HEARD ABOUT THAT AND ALSO HEARD BRIEFLY FROM ANOTHER TROOPER DISPATCHED TO LOGAN AIRPORT TO PHOTOGRAPH THE ENTWISTLE'S LEASED BMW SUV WHICH HAS BEEN ABANDONED AT LOGAN AIRPORT BY NEIL ENTWISTLE. >> WE KNOW FROM SOME OF THE PRETRIAL NEWS REPORTS ON THIS CASE THAT NEIL ENTWISTLE WAS INVOLVED WITH PORNOGRAPHY SITES ON THE INTERNET AND ESCORT SITES. THERE WAS A PRETRIAL MOTION BY THE DEFENSE TO KEEP SOME OF THAT OUT. MOUCH IS GOING TO COME INTO THE TRIAL. >> THAT IS GOING TO BE A LARGE PART OF THE TRIAL AS WELL. IN FACT, THE OTHER PROSECUTOR SITTING AT THE TABLE WITH MICHAEL FABBRI WHO HAS NOT PARTICIPATED YET AT ALL IS DAN DEN NET. HE'S BEEN DOING THE FORENSIC STUFF. >> WHAT HAS THE PROSECUTION GOING TO BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH TO THE JURY WITH REGARD TO NEIL ENTWISTLE AND THE PORNOGRAPHY AND ESCORTS? >> Reporter: WE BELIEVE THEY'LL SHOW THERE WERE A NUMBER OF SEARCHES DONE ON THE COMPUTERS WHICH WERE TAKEN FROM THE ENTWISTLE HOME, ONLY TWO ADULTS LIVING IN THAT HOME FOR ABOUT A WEEK. THEY MOVED ON ON THE 7th BUT DIDN'T START SLEEPING THERE TILL JANUARY 14th. MURDERS ARE ON THE 20th. TWO LAPTOPS SEIZED SHOW THERE WERE GOOGLE SEARCHES FOR WAYS TO KILL SOMEONE WITH A KNIFE, BANKRUPTCY, EUTHANASIA. ON THE 18th THERE WERE SEARCHES FOR ESCORT SERVICES IN THE BOSTON AND WORCESTER AREA. IT'S A LITTLE WEST OF HERE. AND MAP QUEST EVEN FOR DIRECTIONS TO SOME OF THESE PLACES. WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY EVIDENCE HE ACTUALLY HAD A LIAISON WITH ANYONE. BUT HE WAS LOOKING IF YOU ASSUME THAT THE USER -- IF THEY CAN SHOW THAT THE USER WAS NEIL ENTWISTLE. AGAIN, THERE ARE ONLY TWO ADULTS LIVING IN THAT HOUSE WHO HAD ACCESS AND I GUESS THE DEFENSE COULD SAY IT WAS RACIAL WHO WAS LOOKING FOR ESCORT SERVICES, BUT I DOUBT IT. >> SURE. JUST LIKE JULIE JENSEN WAS LOOKING UP HOW TO KILL HERSELF. I'M SURE THAT'S THE CASE. OR LACY PETERSON WAS LOOKING UP TIDES IN THE BAY. ONE OF THE STRANGE THINGS ABOUT THE CASE IS THAT FROM FAMILY ANDS FRIENDS TO THE COMMUNITY GREETER EVERYONE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION RACHEL AND NEIL ENTWISTLE WERE A LOVING COUPLE. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE TESTIMONY THAT PAINTS THE PICTURE OF A HAPPY ENTWISTLE FAMILY. >> BASED ON YOUR OBSERVATIONS OF THE VARIETY OF TIMES YOU HAD SEEN THE DEFENDANT AND RACHEL TOGETHER, CAN YOU DESCRIBE THEIR RELATIONSHIP UP TO AND INCLUDING THEIR MARRIAGE IN AUGUST OF 2003? >> THEY SEEMED TO GET ALONG VERY WELL. THEY SEEMED TO HAVE A FRIENDSHIP AS WELL AS SEEMED TO LOVE AND RESPECT EACH OTHER. >> FROM ALL YOU COULD SEE, RACHEL AND NEIL WERE VERY HAPPY TOGETHER? >> THEY WERE. >> FAIR TO SAY THAT AS FAR AS YOU EXPERIENCED THEM, THEY WERE A HAPPY AND LOVING COUPLE? >> YES. >> I LIKED NEIL A LOT. HE WAS PART OF THE FAMILY. >> WHAT ABOUT YOUR OBSERVATIONS OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DEFENDANT AND RACHEL? >> THEY HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP. >> AND WHAT ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH LILY? >> SAME. >> COULD YOU DESCRIBE THAT RELATIONSHIP SHE HAD WITH THE DEFENDANT, NEIL ENTWISTLE, BASED ON WHAT YOU HAD OBSERVED. >> TYPICAL MARRIAGE. YOU KNOW, PLAYFUL AND NICKNAMES FOR EACH OTHER. SMILING. YOU KNOW, CONCERN OF WHAT LILY WAS DOING AND, YOU KNOW, TEETHING AND WHAT SHE WAS EATING AND TAKING CARE OF HER. CONVERSATION LIKE THAT. >> DID YOU HAVE AN OCCASION TO OBSERVE THE DEMEANOR OF THE FAMILY? >> YES. >> BASED ON THE 50 MINUTES OR SO THAT YOU SPENT IN THERE -- >> YES. >> -- HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE APPEARANCE OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP. >> A LOVING, ADORABLE, ENGAGED, ATTENTIVE RELATIONSHIP. IT WAS JUST A LOVELY FAMILY. >> I DON'T KNOW. IT JUST SEEMS TO ME IF YOU'RE GOING TO SHOOT YOUR BABY, YOU HAVE TO BE SOMEWHAT DISCONNECTED FROM THAT BABY. NOT THE LOVING, ATTENTIVE FATHER THAT ALL OF THESE WITNESSES WHO ARE PROSECUTION WITNESSES SAY THAT NEIL ENTWISTLE WAS. CARMEN SAINT GEORGE, WHAT ABOUT IT? >> I THINK, LISA, THEY'RE SHOWING THE HAPPY FAMILY FACADE. THE IDEA THAT THIS LOVING, INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP SHATTERED. AND YOU SEE THAT IT WAS A FINANCIAL BREAKDOWN, A SEXUAL BREAKDOWN. AND I THINK IT REMINDS ME OF THAT GUNS AND ROSES SONG BUT I USED TO LOVE HER BUT HAD TO KILL HER. YOU HAVE ALL THESE WITNESSES SAYING BEAUTIFUL, LOVING FAMILY. YET DEEP DOWN LOOK AT WHAT WAS GOING ON ON THAT COME PURER. SEE THE RESEMBLANCE WITH SCOTT PETERSON'S CASE. THAT STUFF BECOMES IMPORTANT TO JURORS WHEN YOU SEE GOOGLE SEARCHES OF RIVERS OR DISPOE SALES OF BODIES OR WAYS TO KILL SPOUSES OR EVEN THE OOETLE ETHER CASE. I THINK I REMEMBER BACK TO SOME INFORMATION ABOUT GOOGLING INFORMATION ON WHAT THE EFFECTS ARE OF THOSE TYPES OF SUBSTANCES ON A BODY. THOSE ARE THE TELLING SIGNS OF WHAT'S LURKING BEHIND THE CLOSED DOOR OF THIS PICTURE PERFECT FAMILY. >> CARMEN, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT SONG, THAT GUNS AND ROSES SONG, I USED TO LOVE HER BUT THEN I HAD TO KILL HER THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN ONE OF THE CASES THAT WE COVERED. >> I REMEMBER. >> THEç JUSTIN BARBER CASE. HE PLAYED THAT SONG ALLEGEDLY BY THE STATE TO GET HIMSELF AMPED UP TO KILL HIS WIFE. HE MAINTAINED HE DIDN'T DO. HE WAS CONVICTED AS WELL. IT JUST SEEMS ODD TO ME. I KNOW NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT GOES ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. HE COULD HAVE BEEN LESS INVOLVED AS A HUSBAND AND FATHER AND BY ALL ACCOUNTS HE WAS A LOVING CHUZ HUSBAND AND FATHER. HE HAD TO GO MAYBE FOUR DAYS BEFORE, MAYBE A DAY BEFORE BUT HE HAD TO GO GET THAT GUN AND THEN BRING IT HOME AGAIN AND HIDE IT SOMEWHERE. I MEAN, THAT'S A LEVEL OF PREMEDITATION THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LOVING FATHER AND HUSBAND. >> LISA, YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP. >> TRUE. >> ESPECIALLY THE AFTERMATH. I MEAN, HE IS IN ANOTHER FOREIGN COUNTRY RIPPING OUT PAGES OF A NEWSPAPER OF HOW TO CONTINUE HAVING SEX NO THAT HE HAS FOUND OUT THAT HIS WIFE IS DEAD IN HIS FAMILY BED. ALL THOSE THINGS DO NOT MAKE SENSE. THEY DON'T CONNECT TO WHAT NATURAL RELATIONSHIPS, EVEN IF THEY'RE TROUBLED, THERE ARE WAYS OUT OF RELATIONSHIPS. BUT I THINK SOME OF THESE PEOPLE GET STUCK. AND THE FEAR OF THE FINANCIAL DRAIN, THE FEAR OF THE SHAME OF HAVING THE DISILLUSION OF A MARRIAGE OR HOME OR EVERYTHING IN YOUR WORLD EXPOSED, I THINK TROUBLES PEOPLE TO THE POINT WHERE THEY FEEL THEY HAVE NO OTHER RESORT. I'M FRANKLY SURPRISED THERE WASN'T SOME SORT OF INSANITY DEFENSE THIS THIS CASE. >> UH-HUH. BETH KARAS, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT NEIL ENTWISTLE'S BACKGROUND, HIS FAMILY HISTORY, HIS MENTAL HISTORY? >> Reporter: WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT PSYCHOLOGICAL HISTORY. THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANYTHING AWRY. CARMEN'S NOT THE FIRST PERSON I'VE HAD SAY THEY'RE NOT SURPRISED THERE'S NOT SOME SORT OF DIMINISHED CAPACITY OR PSYCHOLOGICAL DEFENSE HERE. HE WAS A GOOD STUDENT IN ENGLAND. HE COMES FROM NOTTINGHAM. HE COMES FROM A TOWN CALLED WORKS UP WHICH IS ON THE BORDER OF SHERWOOD FOREST. NORTH OF LONDON. HE COMES FROM A WORKING-CLASS BACKGROUND. HIS FATHER I THINK IS IS A LOCAL POLITICIAN BUT WAS A COAL MINER AT ONE TIME. HE WAS A GOOD STUDENT IN HIGH SCHOOL, A STRONG STUDENT IN HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL AS IN COLLEGE. HE HAS AN ENGINEERING DEGREE. NOTHING REALLY WEIRD IN HIS BACKGROUND. >> MAYBE THERE'S NO DIMINISHED CAPACITY DEFENSE BECAUSE THERE'S NO FACTS TO SUPPORT IT. THERE'S NO HIS TEA WAS SERVED COLD AND HE WENT OFF THE DEEP END. MAYBE THEY JUST DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SUPPORT IT. I'M SURE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING, ELLIOT WINESTEIN WOULD BE IN THERE PUSHING THAT DEFENSE. AS WE GO TO A BREAK WE WANT TO UPDATE YOU ON TODAY'S 13th JUROR QUESTION. ARE THE CRIME SCENE PHOTOS HELPING THE PROSECUTION? SO FAR 92% OF YOU ARE VOTING YES. 8% ARE HOLDING OUT AND SAYING NO. TO VOTE LOGON TO CNN.COM/CRIME AND CLICK ON 13th JUROR. >>> I NOTICED THERE WAS WHAT APPEARED TO BE A PUNCTURE TO THE LEFT CHEST AREA OF THE INFANT. >> AND CAN YOU DESCRIBE THAT WITH MORE PARTICULARITY. >> YES. IT APPEARED A DARKENED COLOR, ALMOST LIKE SOOT, BURNING, WAS NOT QUITE SURE WHAT IT WAS AT THE TIME. IT WAS NOT EVIDENT PRIOR TO SEPARATING THE VICTIMS. ON CLOSER EXAMINATION, IT APPEARED TO BE A GUNSHOT WOUND TO ME. >> WHAT COULD BE MORE HEARTBREAKING THAN A YOUNG MOTHER AND BABY CURLED UP TOGETHER IN BED, BOTH MURDERED, THE BABY WITH A GUNSHOT TO THE LEFT SIDE OF HER CHEST, THE MOTHER WITH ONE GUNSHOT TO THE HAIRLINE AND THAT IS WHAT KILLED HER. AS WE'RE WAITING FOR THE TRIAL TO GET UNDER WAY LET'S GO BACK INTO THE TRIAL AND LOOK AT SOME IMPORTANT TESTIMONY FROM YESTERDAY ABOUT THE CRIME SCENE. LISTEN. >> AFTER PERFORMING THE PHOTO DOCUMENTATION, THE PHOTOGRAPHS, THE VIDEO, ET CETERA, WHAT DID YOU AND OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR TEAM BEGIN TO DO, IF YOU COULD, STARTING WITH THE BEDROOM? >> AT THAT POINT WE KNEW THAT THE VICTIMS WERE UNDER THE COMFORTER BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT VISIBLE IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS WE HAD PREVIOUSLY TAKEN WE DECIDED TO METHODICALLY REMOVE EACH LAYER AS WE FOUND THEM. AND THEN DOCUMENT WITH PHOTOGRAPHS AS EACH LAYER, THE COMFORTER, WAS TAKEN OFF. IT WAS DOCUMENTED PRIOR. AND AFTER REMOVAL. THE SECOND LAYER WAS DOCUMENTED PRIOR TO AND AFTER REMOVAL. >> DESCRIBE THE REMOVAL OF THE FIRST LAYER AND YOUR OBSERVATIONS OF THE BED UPON REMOVAL. >> YES. FIRST WE REMOVED THE COMFORTER. WE BROUGHT IT DOWN TO THE FOOT OF THE BED. WE OBSERVED BOTH VICTIMS -- THE MOTHER, RACHEL, WAS LYING ON THE -- SHE WAS ON HER LEFT SIDE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BED FACING THE RIGHT SIDE. HER ARM WAS ACROSS THE SECOND VICTIM, LILLIAN, THE BABY. HER ARM, HER RIGHT ARM, WAS COVERING -- COVERING ACROSS THE INFANT'S CHEST. >> NOW, DID YOU INITIALLY SEE THE ENTIRE BODY OF THE -- OF RACHEL AND LILLIAN UPON REMOVAL OF THE COMFORTER OR WAS SOMETHING ELSE -- WAS THERE ANOTHER REMOVAL STEP, A LAYER STEP. >> YES. THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY THREE OR FOUR REMOVAL STEPS. I'M SORRY FOR THAT. THE FIRST ONE WAS THE COMFORTER. AT THAT POINT THERE WAS A WHITE SHEET COVERING RACHEL, THE MOTHER, AND A PILLOW WAS ALSO ACROSS THE INFANT LILLIAN'S FACE AND PARTIALLY ON THE ADULT VICTIM RACHEL'S FACE ALSO. >> SO TELL US JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, TELL US WHAT YOU COULD SEE FIRST UPON REMOVAL OF THE COMFORTER. >> YES. UPON REMOVAL OF THE COMFORTER, WE COULD SEE THE INFANT'S BODY FROM THE NECK DOWN. BUT THE FACE WAS COVERED WITH THE PILLOW. >> YOU COULD OR COULD NOT SEE THE BODY? >> WE COULD -- I BELIEVE THAT THE SECOND LAYER, THE SHEET, WAS COVERING MOSTLY THE ADULT VICTIM. BUT THE PILLOW WAS COVERING MOST OF THE INFANT'S SHOULDERS AND HEAD AREA. >> AT SOME POINT IN TIME THE PILLOW WAS REMOVED. IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT WAS THE SECOND LAYER OR WAS THAT THE THIRD LAYER? >> I BELIEVE THE PILLOW WAS THE SECOND LAIRIER. >> AND DESCRIBE -- I'M SORRY. >> AND THE SHEET WAS THE THIRD LAYER. >> TELL US WHAT YOU COULD SEE WHEN YOU REMOVED THE SECOND LAYER, THE PILLOW. >> YES. THEN WE COULD SEE THE INFANT VICTIM, HER FACE, AND ALSO THE MOTHER OES FACE WHICH WAS ON HER LEFT SIDE FACING TOWARDS THE INFANT. >> AND WHAT PORTION OF THE BED WAS RACHEL ENTWISTLE'S HEAD? WAS IT TOWARD THE HEAD OF THE BED? FOOT OF THE BED? HOW WAS IT SITUATED? >> HER HEAD WAS TOWARDS THE HEAD OF THE BED. ON HER LEFT SIDE FACING THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BED. >> AND THE BABY? >> AND THE BABY, LILLIAN, WAS ON HER BACK. HER HEAD WAS SLIGHTLY ELEVATED FROM THE BODY. I CAN'T REMEMBER. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A PILLOW UNDERNEATH. BUT SHE WAS ON SORT OF AN INCLINE. >> AS THE PILLOW WAS REMOVED FROM ON TOP OF THE BABY, DID YOU MAKE OBSERVATIONS OF THE UNDERSIDE OF THE PILLOW? >> YES. WHEN WE REMOVED THE PILLOW FROM THE FACE AREA OF THE INFANT VICTIM, THERE WAS REDDISH BROWN STAINS COVERING THE SIDE OF THE PILLOW THAT WAS UP AGAINST THE FACE OF THE INFANT. >> AND COULD YOU SEE ANY OTHER REDDISH BROWN TYPE OF STAINS ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE BED AT THAT TIME? >> NOT AT THAT TIME, NO. >> AND WHAT PORTION OF THE -- WHEN THE PILLOW WAS REMOVED, WHAT PORTION OR PORTIONS OF THE BABY AND THE MOTHER COULD BE SEEN? >> AFTER THE REMOVAL OF THE PILLOW, WE COULD SEE THE ENTIRE -- THE INFANT VICTIM. LILLIAN. AND WE COULD ALSO SEE THE MOTHER'S -- RACHEL'S HEAD. BUT, AGAIN, IT WAS ON HER LEFT SIDE SO WE COULD SEE PART OF HER FACE AND HEAD. >> NOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS A THIRD LAYER, A SHEET. WAS THAT EVENTUALLY REMOVED, PULLED BACK? >> YES. THE SHEET WAS COVERING RACHEL, THE ADULT VICTIM. AND THAT WAS REMOVED. >> DESCRIBE YOUR OBSERVATIONS OF RACHEL WHEN YOU PULLED THAT SHEET BACK. >> YES. SHE WAS LAYING ON HER LEFT SIDE. I BELIEVE HER FEET WERE CURLED UP A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS THE BODY. SHE HAD ON WHAT APPEARED TO BE PAJAMAS. OR SHORTS AND A TOP. APPEARED TO BE PAJAMAS. AGAIN, SHE WAS LAYING ON HER LEFT SIDE. HER FACE WAS SOMEWHAT DOWNWARD. AND HER RIGHT ARM WAS OVER ACROSS THE INFANT VICTIM, LILLIAN. >> WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DID YOU OBSERVE ON THE HEAD OR FACIAL AREA OF RACHEL ENTWISTLE AT THIS TIME? >> ON THE -- THE ONLY THING THAT I NOTED, BUT THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT AFTER WHEN WE TURNED HER ON HER BACK, THERE WAS A SLIGHT DISCOLORATION AROUND HER MOUTH AREA. >> AND WHAT ABOUT ON THE BABY? WHAT, IF ANYTHING, COULD YOU OBSERVE ON THE BABY AT THIS MOMENT? BEFORE YOU -- WHEN ALL THE LAYERS ARE OFF BEFORE ANY FURTHER MOVEMENT IS DONE. >> YES. ON THE BABY WE NOTICED DISCOLORATION. IT ALMOST APPEARED TO BE BRUISING BILATERALLY ON THE EYES. SOME FLUIDS WERE PURGING OR BEING EXCRETED FROM THE FACE AREA. IT WAS DISCOLORED. REDDISH BROWN. >> WHAT, IF ANY, CLOTHING DID THE BABY HAVE ON? >> THE BABY HAD ON AN INFANT SLEEPER. PAJAMAS. >> LET'S PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER. PETER ELIKA NRK N IS STILL WITH US. CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY AND AUTHOR OF THE TOUGH ON CRIME MYTH. THIS SEEMS TO ME LIKE A CRIME THAT WAS VERY PERSONAL, THE WAY THAT THE MOTHER, RACHEL, WAS SHOT IN THE FACE AT THE HAIRLINE. THE BABY WAS SHOT IN THE CHEST. THE MOTHER AND BABY WITH THEIR ARMS AROUND EACH OTHER. AND SPECIFICALLY WITH THE SHEETS PULLED UP OVER THEM, A PILLOW OVER THEIR FACES, COVERED UP AS -- I DON'T KNOW. A SIGN OF SOME KIND OF TWISTED FORM OF RESPECT IN A WAY THAT YOU MIGHT COVER SOMEONE UP IF YOU FOUND THEM DECEASED. IT DOESN'T SOUND TO ME LIKE SOMETHING AN INTRUDER WOULD DO. >> YEAH. THE COVERING UP PART, SOMETIMES THESE THINGS -- MURDERS ARE SO PERSONAL THEY HAVE THE OVERKILL WHERE SOMEBODY'S STABBED 80 TIMES BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH ANGER AND PERSONAL FURRY. THIS WASN'T -- THE MURDER ITSELF, THAT PART DIDN'T SEEM AS PERSONAL. AS FAR AS THE COVERING UP PART, THOUGH, ALMOST TO MAKE IT, YEAH, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO SEE THEM. I WANT IT TO BE KIND OF NEAT. IT'S A TERRIBLE SCENE HERE AND I WANT TO MAKE IT KIND OF NICE AND PUT IT OVER. IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS SOME THINKING PUT INTO THAT. AS YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER THERE WAS PREMEDITATION TOO, OBVIOUSLY GETTING THE GUN IN ADVANCE AND PLANNING THIS THING. THE ONLY THING I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND AT ALL IN THIS PREMEDITATION THING, IF THIS WAS A PREMEDITATION CRIME, THIS WAS THE OVER COVER-UP STORY I'VE HEARD IN MY LIFE. NORMALLY SOMEONE WOULD PICK UP THE PHONE AND DO THE OH, MY GOD, MY WIFE AND CHILD ARE DEAD AND THEY'D COME TO THE FUNERAL AND THEY'D -- >> PETER, THAT'S WHY MAYBE PROSECUTOR MARTHA COKELY, NOW ATTORNEY GENERAL MARTHA COKELY SAID THIS MAY HAVE BEEN INTENDED AS A MURDER SUICIDE AND ENDED UP NOT BEING ABLE TO KILL HIMSELF. THAT'S WHY HE HAD NO AFTERPLAN AS TO WHAT TO DO. WHY HE RAN AROUND, PANICKED, WENT TO THE AIRPORT, LEFT THE AIRPORT, WENT TO THE ATM, WENT BACK WELCOME GOT A FLIGHT FOR 2:30 AND THEN AN EARLIER FLIGHT. THERE WAS NO PLAN BECAUSE THE PLAN WAS TO KILL THEM AND KILL HIMSELF. DOES THAT MAKE SOME SENSE. >> LISA, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT COULD BE RIGHT ON THE MONEY. THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. THERE'S NO AFTERPLAN AT ALL. THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST STORIES WE'VE EVER HEARD. WHEN WE TALK TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT'S THE THING WORST OF ALL. THEY CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU COULDN'T CALL THE POLICE OR FAMILY AND RUN AWAY AND TAKE A FLIGHT. IT'S SUCH A HORRIBLE AFTERSTORY THAT THERE CLEARLY COULD NOT HAVE ANYTHING DB THIS IS NOT A STUPID GUY EITHER. HE DID WELL IN SCHOOL. NOBODY SAID HE WAS IGNORANT OR NOT VERY SHARP. IT'S SUCH A BAD STORY THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK OF ALSO. THAT HE DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS GOING TO HAVE TO BE AN AFTER STORY BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO KILL HIMSELF ALSO. >> THESE GUYS ARE USUALLY NOT AS SMART AS THEY THINK ANYWAY. FORMER PROSECUTOR EXPERTISE, I NUSHLLY THOUGHT WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS CRIME SCENE MOTHER AND BABY WERE PERHAPS CURLED UP TOGETHER IN BED SLEEPING. THE FACT THAT THERE WAS BATH WATER RUN AND LIGHTS ON IN THE HOUSE INDICATES TO ME THAT THEY WERE PROBABLY AWAKE. AND THAT MEANS THAT SINCE RACHEL ENTWISTLE WAS SHOT RIGHT IN THE FACE, THERE HAD TO HAVE BEEN SOME CONVERSATION BEFOREHAND. SOME THREATS. SOME EXPLANATION. I MEAN, IT'S JUST GETTING WORSE AND WORSE, ISN'T IT? >> YES. AS THIS PROGRESSES IT DOES GET WORSE AND WORSE FOR MR. ENTWISTLE. I WILL SAY THAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME THAT THE BODIES COULD HAVE BEEN POSED. AS I SAID BEFORE, WAS THERE A STRUGGLE. THE WAY THE BABY DIED IT JUST LOOKS LIKE WITH THE BRUISES ON THE FACE, WHOEVER DID IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE PERSON MAY HAVE TRIED TO SILENCE THE BABY OR QUIET THE BABY DOWN BEFORE SHOOTING THE BABY. AND THEN IT ALSO SPEAKS TO, DID THIS GUY IN HIS MIND WITH THIS LOVES, WAS IT REALLY A FACADE? DID HE REALLY LOVE THIS CHILD? IF HE DID HOW COULD HE THEN SHOOT THE CHILD. IF THE MOTHER WAS SHOT, IF IT WAS A STRUG P OR HE DECIDED HE WAS ANGRY AT HER FOR FINDING OUT THEY HAD FINANCIAL WOES, WHY WOULD HE SHOOT THE BABY? SHE CLEARLY CAN'T TESTIFY IN COURT. WHY WOULD HE DO THAT. THAT'S THE THING THAT'S A LITTLE TROUBLESOME. HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE, AS YOU SAID BEFORE, IT WASN'T THAT THE MOTHER AND CHILD WERE CURLED IN BED AND THIS WAS HOW THEY DIED. IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY POSED THIS. IT JUST LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING SOMEONE WENT TO DELIBERATE STEPS TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE TO PUT THIS BABY -- THIS BABY HERE AND THE WOMAN THERE. >> AND HER READING GLASSES, HER READING GLASSES ON THE FLOOR. THAT'S THE KIND OF ANYTHING -- THING ANYBODY WOULD PICK UP. I WONDER IF SHE HAD THEM ON, IF THEY WERE KNOCKED OFF OF HER FACE FROM THE SHOOTING, WHETHER THEY HAD JUST BEEN DROPPED OR WHETHER THERE WAS SOME KIND OF TRAUMATIC MOMENT WHERE SHE DROPPED HER GLASSES AND THERE THEY WERE ON THE FLOOR. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. DON'T GO ANYWHERE. >>> ARE THE CRIME SCENE PHOTOS HELPING THE PROSECUTION? THAT'S TODAY'S 13th JUROR QUESTION. JUST LOGON TO CNN.COM/CRIME AND CHICK ON 13th JUROR TO VOTE. WELL, THIS IS A RESOUNDING YES. 92% OF YOU VOTING YES. 8% OF YOU HAVE SOME DOUBTS. WE'LL BE UPDATING THE 13th JUROR ROULTS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. WE ARE WAITING FOR LIVE TESTIMONY TO GET UNDER WAY IN THE MASSACHUSETTS COURTROOM. WE'VE GOT A LATE JUROR AND EXPECT THE JUROR TO GET THERE IN TEN MINUTES OR SO. THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO CATCH YOU UP WITH TESTIMONY YOU MAY NOT HAVE SEEN AND IS UNDOUBT DLY GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO THE JURORS. THEY LIKE THE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE. SERGEANT MARY RICHIE OF THE MASSACHUSETTS STATE POLICE CRIME SERVICES YESTERDAY ON THE STAND TALKING ABOUT FINGERPRINTS. LISTEN TO THIS. >> IN THE PROCESS OF COMPARISON I THINK YOU USED THE TERM ASFEE. >> YES. WHEN WE LOOK AT A FINGERPRINT WE DETERMINE IS IT WORTH GOING ON TO THE C PART WHICH THE IS COMPARATIVE STAGE. IN DESCRIBING THOSE THINGS I DID EARLIER, THE LEVELS ONE, TWO AND THREE IN THE ANALYSIS FAZE, WHEN WE DETERMINE THAT IS A PRINT WE CONSIDER SUFFICIENT QUANTITY AND QUALITY TO DO A COMPARISON WE CAN GO TO THE COMPARESON PHASE. >> IN THE AREAS YOU DESCRIBED TO THE COURT THAT YOU PROCESS TD IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF JANUARY 23rd, 2006, WERE YOU ABLE TO FIND OR LIFT OR REMOVE ANY LATE LATENT PRINTS OR PORTION OF LATENT PRINTS? >> YES. TELL US WHAT YOU FOUND AND WHERE YOU FOUND THEM. >> WE FOUND TWO AREAS THAT WERE PHOTO DOCUMENTED AND REMOVED. ONE WAS ON THE OUTSIDE -- LOOKING AT THE MASTER BEDROOM DOORJAMB, THE EXTERIOR PART OF THAT, THE PART THAT'S ON THE FOYER. ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WE FOUND A PALM PRINT. >>> ALL RIGHT. KARMTEN ST. GEORGE, FINGERPRINTS ARE A TOUGH ONE IN THIS CASE. OF COURSE THE ENTWISTLE HOME IS GOING TO BE FILLED WITH PRINTS OF LILLIAN ENTWISTLE, PERHAPS THE BABY, AND CERTAINLY RACHEL ENTWISTLE AND NEIL ENTWISTLE. >> AS A PROSECUTOR YOU ALMOST WANT TO MAKE THAT A NONISSUE TO THE JURY BECAUSE THEY ALL LIVED IN THE HOUSE TOGETHER. THE ONLY SUSPICIOUS THING WOULD BE IF THERE WAS A STRANGER'S FINGERPRINT ANYWHERE ON ANYTHING, WHICH SHOWED ANY CONNECTION TO THE MURDER. AND YOU DON'T HAVE THAT HERE. >> YEAH. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT SIDE BAR IS BREAKING UP. WELL, INDEED, I CAN REMEMBER, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM THE DAVID WESTER FIELD CASE IN SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA, THERE WERE UNKNOWN FINGERPRINTS FOUND ON THE BANISTER. THE DEFENSE MADE MUCH OF THAT. PERHAPS THERE WILL BE UNKNOWN FINGERPRINTS IN THIS HOME. WE HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT THAT YET. LET'S GO BACK IN AND LISTEN TO THIS TESTIMONY. >> SERGEANT, IF YOU COULD, TELL US EITHER WHAT YOU DID OR WHAT YOU OBSERVED OTHERS IN THE AREAS THAT YOU WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROCESSING, WHAT THEY DID, WHAT WAS COLLECTED. >> PERTAINING TO THAT AREA? >> YES. >> YES. ON THE DOORJAMB ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE DOORJAMB ON THE FOYER SIDE OF THE MASTER BEDROOM, WE FOUND A PALM PRINT. AND ON THE DOOR -- >> NOW, WHEN YOU SAY WE, ARE YOU REFERRING TO YOURSELF -- >> MYSELF AND TROOPER KEN HEIFER NAN. WE PROCESSED THE MASTER BEDROOM. >> WHAT DID YOU FIND AND/OR WHAT DID YOU SEE THE TROOPER FIND IN PROCESSING THE DOORJAMB. >> YES. WE FOUND PRINTS AND RING DETAIL. >> IF YOU COULD SPECIFY WHETHER YOU FOUND IT OR THE TROOPER FOUND IT IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION. OR IF YOU DID IT TOGETHER, THAT SPECIFIC TASK TOGETHER, INDICATE THAT YOU DID IT TOGETHER. >> YES. WE BOTH PROCESSED THAT, THE MASTER BEDROOM DOORJAMB AREA DOOR TOGETHER. >> AND WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DID YOU FIND? >> YES. THE PALM PRINT ON THE LEFT SIDE. AND WE ALSO FOUND A LATENT FINGERPRINT ON THE DOOR ON THE FOYER SIDE. >> WERE YOU ABLE TO LIFT OR REMOVE THOSE PRINTS? >> YES. THEY WERE PHOTO DOCUMENTED PRIOR TO, AND THEN, YES, THEY WERE BOTH LIFTED. >> AND AT SOME LATER POINT IN TIME WAS A COMPARISON MADE TO ONE OR MORE KNOWN SETS OF PRINTS? >> YES. >> AND WHEN WAS THAT DONE? >> IN THE WEEKS AFTER THE DATE, AS WE RECEIVED EITHER MAJOR CASE PRINTS WHICH INCLUDED PALM PRINTS AND/OR INK FINGERPRINT KNOWN EXEMPLARS WE BEGAN THE COMPARISON PHASE. >> AND WERE YOU ABLE TO DETERMINE TO WHOM THAT PALM PRINT AND/OR THE LATENT FINGERPRINT WAS ASSOCIATED? >> YES. >> AND WHAT WERE YOUR RESULTS. >> THE PALM PRINT WAS INDIVIDUALIZED TO NEIL ENTWISTLE. AND THE LATENT FINGERPRINT WAS INDIVIDUALIZED TO ONE OF THE FINGERS OF RACHEL ENTWISTLE. >> AND WHO DID THAT COMPARISON OF THE PALM PRINT AND THE PRINT? >> I WAS INVOLVED IN BOTH OF THOSE. >> SO YOU EXAMINED THE LATENT PRINT AND THE INKED PRINTS AND MADE A DETERMINATION OF THE ASSOCIATION? >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND PETER ELIKANN IS STILL WITH US. HE PRACTICES CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAW IN THAT JURISDICTION. TALK TO US, PETER, ABOUT THE JURORS OUT THERE. WE ALL THINK OF MASSACHUSETTS AS A FAIRLY LIBERAL STATE. YOU WROTE A BOOK THE TOUGH ON CRIME MYTH. ARE THEY TOUGH ON CRIME OUT THERE? >> I WOULD THINK çSO. ALSO, MIDDLESEX COUNTY, THIS COUNTY ITSELF IS NOT ONE OF THE -- IS NOT ONE OF THE EASIEST JURIES. THEY'RE VERY, VERY TOUGH IN THAT COUNTY. >> TOUGH FOR WHICH SIDE? >> WHAT? >> TOUGH FOR WHICH SIDE? >> THEY'RE VERY TOUGH ON THE DEFENSE. WE DEFENSE COUNSEL DON'T LIKE A MIDDLESEX JURY. A LOT ARE FROM CAMBRIDGE AND THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF JURIES THERE. IF IT'S YOUR WORD AGAINST THE POLICE OFFICER WON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE A POLICE OFFICER IN BOSTON. IN MIDDLESEX COUNTY THEY'RE TOUGH. IT'S ONE OF THE GREAT MYTHS WE TALK ABOUT. LIBERAL MASSACHUSETTS HAS GOT SOME OF THE TOUGHEST LAWS, MANDATORY SENTENCES, ET CETERA. WHEN IT COMES TO CRIMINAL JUSTICE ISSUES IT'S NOT LIBERAL AT ALL. THAT'S ONE OF THE GREAT FALLACIES. >> THERE'S NO DELT PENALTY. CERTAINLY DOESN'T MAKE IT A PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC BUT THERE WAS NO DEATH PENALTY. THE FIRST STATE TO HAVE GAY MARRIAGE WHICH I APPLAUD. THERE ARE SOME LIBERAL TENDENCIES OUT THERE. WHY DO YOU SAY TOUGH ON CRIME MYTH IN YOUR BOOK? >> THE POINT OF THE BOOK, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE WORLD'S LARGEST JAILER IN THE WORLD. >> THE UNITED STATES IS? >> YEAH. THE UNITED STATES IS. AND I THOUGHT THE FACT WE'RE LOCKING UP SO MANY PEOPLE IS NOT NECESSARILY MAKING US ANY SAFER. THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE ON CRIME PREVENTION. RATHER WE SEEM TO BE SPENDING ALL OUR MONEY RATHER THAN SORT OF FRONT-END SPENDING WE PREVENTING CRIME, WE'RE REAL GOOD AT LOCKING THEM UP AFTER THE FACT. ONCE THEY'RE IN PRISON WE DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH THEM TO TURN LIVES ASHD. TWO-THIRDS OF PEOPLE GET RELEASED FROM PRISON AND ARRESTED AGAIN BECAUSE NOTHING'S DONE WITH THEM IN THERE. I CALL THIS THE TOUGH ON CRIME MYTH. WE ACT TOUGH BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE IN LENGTHY TIME IN JAIL. BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING THINGS AGAINST CRIME ITSELF. WE MAY BE TOUGH ON INDIVIDUALS ACCUSED OF CRIME, BUT WE'RE NOT TOUGH ON CRIME BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO PREVENT IT OR ONCE A CRIMINAL'S IN JAIL DOING ANYTHING TO TURN HIS LIFE AROUND. >> I AGREE WITH YOU 100% ON THAT, PETER. I KNOW WE HAVE THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF OUR POPULATION INCARCERATED OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. WE HAVE 5 PRGS OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION, 25% OF THE WORLD'S PRISON POPULATION AND STILL A LOT OF CRIME. HERE'S A CASE WHERE GUNS OF A LAW-ABIDING CITIZEN, VERY RESPONSIBLE PERSON, JOE MATTERAZZO, WAS USED, ACCORDING TO THE COMMONWEALTH, TO COMMIT THESE HORRIFIC MURDERS OF HIS STEPDAUGHTER AND HIS STEP GRANDDAUGHTER. WOULD TOUGHER GUN LAWS HAVE HELPED HERE, IN YOUR VIEW, PETER? >> PERHAPS. THE UNITED STATES IS ABSOLUTELY -- I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE HAVING GUNS. THE UNITED STATES IS SO AWASH IN GUNS. WE HAVE MORE GUNS PER CAPITA THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD ALSO. AS YOU'VE SEEN, YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE OF THE STATISTIC, MOST PEOPLE ARE KILLED BY A GUN, THEY KNEW THE OWNER OF THE GUN. IT'S EITHER A RELATIVE OR FRIEND, ET CETERA. SO IT'S NOT -- GUNS AREN'T USED SO MUCH TO PROTECT US AGAINST STRANGERS. IT'S MOSTLY SORT OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE GUNS AT THE MOMENT. SO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE SUCH GUNS AVAILABLE, IF MR. ENTWISTLE WAS BACK IN HIS NATIVE ENGLAND WHERE THEY REALLY -- IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A GUN THERE, THIS VERY CRIME MIGHT NOT HAVE HAPPENED. >> GWENDOLYN LINDSAY-JACKSON, IT'S INTRIGUING TO ME THAT NEIL ENTWISTLE'S INTERNET SEARCH, HOW TO KILL, IT WASN'T JUST HOW TO KILL, IT WAS HOW TO KILL WITH A KNIFE, I THINK THAT IS PARTLY ATTRIBUTE. HE'S DRIT BRITISH. THEY HAVE SOME OF THE STRICTEST GUN CONTROL LAWS IN THE WORLD. MAYBE HE WAS THINKING INITIALLY HE WAS GOING TO KILL THEM AND HE WAS GOING TO DO IT WITH A KNIFE. THEN HE REALIZED, WELL, HEY, I CAN GET A GUN. I CAN GO OVER TO MY STEP DAD'S PLACE. I KNOW WHERE THEY'RE KEPT, WHERE HE KEEPS THE KEY. I CAN GO OVER AND GET A GUN. >> IT DOES SOUND LIKE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE WAY THIS IS ROLLING OUT AS MORE AND MORE EVIDENCE IS BEING PUT FORWARD, HOW TO KILL WITH A KNIFE, THE FACT HE IS A BRITISH CITIZEN AND HE COULDN'T GET A GUN. THAT IS -- THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT'S BEING BROUGHT OUT. I WOULD THINK IT'S A LEAP ONLY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO PROVE, NUMBER ONE, THAT HE USED THAT COMPUTER. AND WAS THE ONE SEARCHING THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK A JURY IS GOING TO BELIEVE THAT MRS. ENTWISTLE WAS SEARCHING FOR THE SEX. BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN THAT THE TWO OF THEM COULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE COMPUTER TO SEARCH DIFFERENT THINGS. DID SHE FIND OUT ABOUT -- >> TOGETHER? >> NO. I DON'T MEAN TOGETHER. DIFFERENT TIMES. >> OKAY. >> WE HAVEN'T ESTABLISHED THAT. DID SHE FIND OUT THAT SHE WAS BROKE? DID THEY HAVE A FIGHT THAT DAY? THERE'S SO MANY QUESTIONS I HAVE IN MY MIND. AS I SAID BEFORE AS A FORMER PROSECUTOR I WANT TO SEE CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT THIS GUN, NUMBER ONE, WAS USED. THAT THE BALLISTICS CHECKS OUT AND THERE'S NO DEFENSE TO IT. AND THESE PRINTS ON THE GUN, I WANT TO SEE THAT BEFORE I SAY THIS GUN WAS USED. I THINK IF YOU ESTABLISH THAT THE GUN WAS USED AND IT WAS PUT BACK IT'S ALL GOING TO POINT TO HIM. BUT IF YOU DON'T, IF THERE'S WIGGLE ROOM WITH WHETHER OR NOT THE GUN WAS USED, WHETHER OR NOT HE USED IT, I THINK THE DEFENSE IS GOING TO TRY TO EXPLOIT THAT. >> LET ME GO TO BETH KARAS ON THE ISSUE OF THE GUN, THE MURDER WEAPON, WHICH THE JURY SAW FOR THE FIRST TIME YESTERDAY. THAT WAS A GUN THAT HAD A TRIGGER LOOK LOCK ON IT, BETH? >> Reporter: YES. A TRIGGER LOCK. AND THAT WAS IN A LITTLE ENVELOPE SEPARATE FROM THE GUN. SHE ALSO DUSTED THAT FOR PRINTS OR SOMEONE HAD. SHE DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING THAT SHE COULD COMPARE ON THAT. BUT THERE WAS A TRIGGER LOCK. YOU SAW IT WAS A LONG BARREL. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY INCHES IT IS. BUT I'M USED TO SEEING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF HANDGUNS AND REVOLVERS THAT ARE USED IN CRIMES. VERY SHORT BARRELS, THINGS YOU COULD EASILY PUT IT BAES BANDS OR POCKETS. THIS IS CLEARLY NOT A WEAPON SOMETHING WAS GOING TO CARRY IN A WAISTBAND. A VERY LONG BARREL. IT HAS NOT BEEN TIED YET BY EVIDENCE AS THE MURDER WEAPON. >> OKAY. >> Reporter: BUT THERE WAS AN INTACT BULLET RECOVERED FROM RACHEL, THE ONE THAT WENT THROUGH THE BABY AND INTO HER, THAT'S WHAT WAS ULTIMATELY USED TO COMPARE IT. >> THERE WAS A TRIGGER LOCK ON THAT GUN AND NEIL ENTWISTLE HAD GONE TO THE SHOOTING RANGE SO HE CLEARLY KNEW HOW TO UNLOCK THAT TRIGGER LOCK. THE GUN WAS ALSO KEPT LOCKED UP WITHIN THE HOME OF JOSEPH MOTT RA ZOE. IS THAT CORRECT? >> Reporter: YES. IN SOME SORT OF GUN CASE IN THE MASTER BEDROOM. HE HAD SEVERAL SETS OF KEYS TO IT. ONE IN HIS OWN TRUCK, ONE BY THE BED STAND IN HIS ROOM. THAT WAS THE MISSING SET. HE SAID HE REALIZED IT WAS MISSING SOMETIME IN 2006. HE COULDN'T REMEMBER WHEN. AND ALSO A SET ON A KITCHEN COUNTER IN A CORNER. AND HE SAID THAT WHEN NEIL AND RACHEL LIVED WITH HIM FOR THREE MONTHS OR SO THE PREVIOUS FALL THEY KNEW WHERE IT WAS. >> THAT'S DISTURBING. SO THE PROSECUTION, THEN, THEORY, PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER, IS THAT JOE MATTERAZZO IS THE GUN OWNER. HIS SON-IN-LAW, NEIL ENTWISTLE GOES SHOOTING WITH HIM AT A SHOOT RANGE. HE GETS TRAINED, LEARNS HOW TO SHOOT GUNS. HE COMES INTO THE MATTERAZZO HOME AT SOME POINT. HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BREAK IN BECAUSE THEY LIVED THERE FOR A WHILE. HE HAD KEYS. GOES IN AT A POINT WHEN NO ONE'S THERE, GETS JOE MATTERAZZO'S KEY FROM THE DRESSER, UNLOCKS THE GUN CASE, TAKES THE GUN, TAKES IT HOME AND EVENTUALLY USED THE GUN TO KILL RACHEL AND LILLIAN. THAT'S THE THEORY? >> Reporter: RIGHT. THAT IS A THEORY. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN HE GOT THE GUN BUT THAT HE DID PUT IT BACK. THERE IS A BIG TIME LAPSE IN THE MORNING. IF YOU BELIEVE HIS TIME LINE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO SAY SOME THINGS THAT HE TOLD US ARE BELIEVABLE BECAUSE IT FITS IN WITH OUR THEORY OF THE CASE, OTHER THINGS ARE NOT. A LITTLE DANGER IN SAYING EXCEPT WHAT WE WANT YOU TO ACCEPT AND REJECT IN HIS STATEMENTS. BUT THAT IS, I THINK, THEIR THEORY. >> MAYBE THE OVERALL THEORY IS HE WAS BEHAVING ERRATICALLY AND IRRATIONALLY. WHAT DOES THE CRIME SCENE TELL US? WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL HEAR WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY ABOUT THAT AS WE REVEAL OUR ANSWER TO OUR QUESTION OF THE DAY. STAY WITH US. >>> FST A REAL LIFE DRA MAP THE JURY LEARNS ABOUT THE CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION AFTER A WOMAN AND BABY ARE MURDERED IN THEIR HOME. THE ENTWISTLE TRIAL CONTINUES COMING UP LIVE ON OPEN COURT. >>> WE ASKED YOU TODAY IN OUR QUESTION OF THE DAY, WHAT DOES THE CRIME SCENE TELL US? WE GOT SOME GOOD ANSWERS TODAY. OUR WINNING ANSWER COMES FROM CHRIS TEEN IN PETERSBURG, ILLINOIS. SHE WRITES THE CRIME SCENE TELLS US THAT NEIL ENTWISTLE TURNED UP THE MUSIC SO HE HIMSELF WOULDN'T HEAR THE GUNSHOTS. THEN AFTER SHOOTING THEM HE COVERED THEIR BODIES BECAUSE HE COULDN'T STAND TO LOOK AT WHAT HE'D DONE. THANKS FOR THAT ANSWER, CHRISTINE, AND THANKS FOR WATCHING. ALSO THERE'S A TV TURNED ON DOWNSTAIRS THAT MAY ALSO SUPPORT YOUR THEORY. WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR LIVE TESTIMONY TO GET UNDER WAY, WE'RE SHOWING YOU SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE TRIAL THUS FAR. JOANNA GATELY ONE OF THE MOST RIVETING WITNESSES THUS FAR IN MY VIEW. A CLOSE FRIEND OF RACHEL'S WHO SHOWED UP FOR A DINNER PARTY. NOBODY WAS THERE. SOMETHING WAS AWRY. SHE CALLED THE POLICE. HERE SHE IS ON CROSS-EXAMINATION DESCRIBING SPENDING THE ENTIRE NIGHT IN HER CAR IN FRONT OF THE ENTWISTLE'S HOME WAITING FOR THEM TO RETURN. >> AND THE NOTE WAS TO BOTH RACHEL AND NEIL, RIGHT? >> YES. >> OKAY. SO THAT WHEN YOU COME -- SO THAT WHEN YOU GO BACK TO CUBS PATH, AND THIS IS A LITTLE AFTER 2:00? >> YES. >> YOU, AGAIN, YOU FELL ASLEEP A LITTLE BIT? RIGHT? >> YES. >> YOUR SISTER'S IN THE BACKSEAT? >> YES. >> IT'S KIND OF UNCOMFORTABLE, OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT? >> YES. >> AND YOU'RE WARMING UP THE CAR EVERY SO OFTEN SO YOU DON'T FREEZE. RIGHT? >> YES. >> AND YOU STAYED -- YOU WOKE UP OR GOT UP AT ABOUT 6:00 IN THE MORNING, YOU SAID? >> YES. >> OKAY. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU WENT BACK TO DUNKIN DONUTS? >> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. AND THEN YOU WENT DRIVING AROUND, DRIVING AROUND, LOOKING FOR THE CAR? >> YES. >> AND THIS WAS BECAUSE YOU WERE LATE FOR DINNER, BASICALLY? YOU HAD ARRIVED LATE FOR DINNER AND YOU DID ALL THIS STUFF AFTER BEING LATE FOR DINNER, RIGHT? >> YES. WE DID THIS ALL AFTER. >> AND THEN AT SOME POINT THE NEIGHBOR CAME OVER AND WAS ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE CODE TO THE DOOR TO GET IN. IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES. >> AND THIS WAS ON SUNDAY MORNING? >> YES. >> AND YOU HAD BEEN, AS YOU TOLD US, IN A LOT OF CONTACT WITH PRISCILLA? >> YES. >> OVER THIS? AND YOU MUST HAVE -- STRIKE THAT. SO ONCE YOU GOT INTO THE HOUSE, AGAIN, YOU WALK AROUND THE HOUSE SEEING IF THERE'S ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY, RIGHT? >> YES. >> EVEN ALL THE WAY UP STAIRS INTO THE MASTER BEDROOM. RIGHT? >> YES. >> AND YOU HEAR THE MUSIC. IT WAS CLASS KAL MUSIC THAT YOU HEARD? IT WAS ON 102.5, THAT WAS THE STATION THAT IT WAS ON? >> I HAVE NO IDEA. >> OKAY. AND YOU WERE IN AND OUT OF THE HOUSE FOR A LOT OF THAT MORNING UNTIL ABOUT 10:30. IS THAT CORRECT? >> WE LEFT ONCE. >> OKAY. AND THEN ONCE YOU LEFT -- ONCE YOU LEFT THE HOUSE AND CLOSED THE DOOR, YOU STILL DID NOT GO BACK HOME TO CAMBRIDGE, RITE? >> RIGHT. >> AND EVEN THOUGH YOU HAD SPOKEN WITH PRISCILLA, PRISCILLA AND MR. MATTERAZZO DID NOT SHOW UP UNTIL A FEW HOURS LATER AFTER YOU LAST SPOKE WITH THEM. IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES. >> OKAY. SO IN THE MEANTIME YOU STILL ARE, LIKE, WAITING AT THE HOUSE IN THE DRIVEWAY PART OF THE TIME? >> YES. >> AND YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND LOOKING FOR THE CAR PART OF THE TIME? >> YES. >> AND THEN WHEN MR. MATTERAZZO -- WHEN JOE MATTERAZZO AND PRISCILLA SHOWED UP, YOU ALL WAITED FOR A BIT AND THEN WENT OUT TO GET SOMETHING TO EAT? >> YES. >> IT WAS AFTER THAT YOU ALL WENT BACK TO THE HOUSE, OR DID YOU GO DIRECTLY TO THE POLICE STATION? >> WE RETURNED TO THE HOUSE. >> AND AFTER THAT YOU WENT DOWN TO THE HOPKINTON POLICE STATION. IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES. >> WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING WITH THE POLICE DURING THE COURSE OF THIS INVESTIGATION, THEY ASKED YOU ABOUT YOUR WHERE ABOUTS ON FRIDAY, IS THAT RIGHT? >> I BELIEVE SO. >> AND YOU TOLD THEM AS MANY SPECIFICS AS YOU COULD? >> YES. >> AND KNOWING THAT IF THEY CHECKED IT OUT, EVERYTHING WOULD BE FINE? >> YES. >> THEY'D BE ABLE TO CONFIRM WHAT YOU TOLD THEM. RIGHT? >> YES. >> FROM THE TIME THAT YOU KNEW RACHEL AND THE TIME -- AND THE TIME THAT YOU KNEW RACHEL KNEW NEIL AND THEY WERE TOGETHER, YOU WERE NEVER AWARE OF ANY FINANCIAL PROBLEMS THAT THAT -- THE ENTWISTLE COUPLE HAD. ISN'T THAT RIGHT? >> RIGHT. >> AND YOU WERE NEVER AWARE OF ANY MARITAL PROBLEMS THAT RACHEL AND NEIL MIGHT HAVE HAD. IS THAT RIGHT? >> RIGHT. >> AND AS YOU TOLD US, THEY WERE A VERY LOVING COUPLE. RIGHT? >> YES. >> A CARING COUPLE. RIGHT? >> YES. >> THEY WERE DEVOTED PARENTS, RIGHT? >> YES. >> THEY WERE DEVOTED TO EACH OTHER, RIGHT? >> YES. >> AND THEY WERE HAPPY AND EXCITED? >> YES. >> IN THEIR NEW LIVES, RIGHT? >> YES. >> AND YOU CAN SEE THE PAIN IN JOANNA GATELY'S FACE 2 1/2 YEARS AFTER THAT HORRIFIC ORDEAL SHE WENT THROUGH, WAITING FOR HER FRIEND WHO NEVER CAME BACK. BIG THANKS TO OUR CORRESPONDENT BETH KARAS REPORTING LIVE FROM MASSACHUSETTS TODAY AND OUR GUESTS PETER ELIKANN AND GWEN LINDSAY-JACKSON IN AND CARMEN ST. GEORGE IN NEW YORK. TIME TO CHECK IN WITH RIKKI KLIEMAN IN FOR JAMI FLOYD AND FIND OUT WHAT'S COMING UP ON BEST DEFENSE. >> HI, LISA. IN ADDITION TO GOING LIVE IN THE ENTWISTLE CASE WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS OUT OF THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT IN WASHINGTON, D.C. THE COURT HAS RULED IN FAVOR OF THE DETAINEES AT GUANTANAMO BAY. AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE RIGHTS TO CHALLENGE THEIR DETENTIONS AND FRED GRAHAM WILL BE WITH US TO TELL US WHAT HAPPENS. >> TERRIFIC. THANKS, RIKKI. WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU IN JUST A MINUTE. THAT WRAPS UP MY TIME WITH YOU ON OPEN COURT. I'M LISA BLOOM. I'LL BE BACK HERE TOMORROW MORNING 9:00 A.M. EASTERN WITH MORE TRIAL COVERAGE. THANKS FOR WATCHING AND I'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW. |