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>>> WHAT TIME IS IT? >> 1-16 HP 2006 AT 1617. >> WHAT ARE YOU SEARCHING FOR? WHAT'S ENT SEARCHING FOR AT THAT TIME, SIR? >> IT'S PERFORMING A GOOGLE SEARCH FOR KNIFE IN NECK KILL. >> KNIFE VIOLENCE AND PORNOGRAPHY TAKE CENTER STAGE AS A COMPUTER EXPERT TAKES THE STAND IN THE ENTWISTLE MURDER TRIAL. THIS REAL LIFE SOAP OPERA ENDS WITH A CLIFF HANGER. THAT'S COMING UP RIGHT NOW ON OPEN COURT. >>> GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO OPEN COURT. I'M LISA BLOOM. A MASSACHUSETTS PROSECUTOR HAS SPENT HOURS QUESTIONING A COMPUTER INVESTIGATOR HOPING TO CONVINCE THE JURY IT WAS NEIL ENTWISTLE SEARCHING FOR INFORMATION ON, QUOTE, HOW TO KILL. ENTWISTLE IS ACCUSED OF MURDERING HIS WIFE AND 9-MONTH-OLD ABY IN THEIR HOME IN 2006. YESTERDAY'S COURT SESSION ENDED WITH A BOMB SHELL. CORRESPONDENT BETH KARAS JINS US NOW LIVE FROM WOBURN, MASSACHUSETTS, WITH MORE ON THAT BIG MOMENT. GOOD MORNING, BETH. >> Reporter: GOOD MORNING, LISA. WHEN THIS COMPUTER FORENSIC ANALYST LAWRENCE JAMES, A LOCAL MEDFORD POLICE OFFICER TESTIFIED ABOUT NUMEROUS SEARCHES WERE SOME OF WHICH YOU JUST MENTIONED, ESCORT SERVICES AND SUICIDE METHOD AND HOW TO KILL WITH A KNIFE, HE ANSWERED A SERIOUS OF QUESTIONS THE DA WAS GIVING HIM. HE WOULD ESTABLISH THE DATE AND TIME ON THE DOCUMENT FROM IN FRONT OF HIM WHICH WE COULDN'T SEE. THE DATE AND TIME STAMP AND USER. AND ALWAYS A USER BY THE NAME OF ENT, A PASSWORD PROTECTED USER NAME THE PROSECUTION BELIEVES IS ENTWISTLE'S. HE WOULD SAY WHAT SITE WAS ACCESSED OR WHAT DOCUMENT WAS DOWN LOADED AND WE HEARD HOURS OF TESTIMONY ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY. NOW, ENTWISTLE SAYS THAT HE CAME HOME AT 11:00 IN THE MORNING ON JANUARY 20th, A FRIDAY, AND FOUND HIS WIFE AND BUYBY DEAD IN BED. ACCORDING TO YESTERDAY'S TESTIMONY THIS IS THE WAY IT ENDED. SOMEONE WAS ON THAT COMPUTER AFTER ENTWISTLE SAYS HE FOUND HIS FAMILY DEAD. HERE'S WHAT THE OFFICER SAID. >> ON PAGE 13 IS THERE A TIME AND DATE STAMP? >> ON ALL THREE RECORDS. >> ON ALL THREE RECORDS, PLEASE, SIR. >> ON THE BOTTOM RECORD 1-20-2006 AT 1230:15. THE MIDDLE RECORD IS 1-20-2006 AT 1230:25. AND THE TOP RECORD IS 1-20-2006 AT 1230:26. >> ALL RIGHT. NOW, SIR, HAVING SYNCHRONIZED THE COMPUTER TO YOUR WATCH, WOULD THAT BE THE LOCAL TIME IN HOP KIN TONK? >> YES. >> AND, SIR, THE BOTTOM ONE, IS THERE A USER ON THE BOTTOM RECORD THAT YOU SEARCHED FOR? >> YES. >> WHO IS THE USER? >> ENT. >> AND -- >> EXCUSE ME. IT'S JUST ABOUT 1:00. WOULD THIS BE A GOOD TIME TO BREAK? >> YOUR HONOR -- YES, YOUR HONOR. >>> SO I SUSPECT THAT THE JUDGE WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE CLOCK AND WEDNESDAYS ARE ALWAYS SHORT DAYS. WE DON'T KNOW. I SAW OFFICER JAMES AFTERWARDS ON THE STREET OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE. I SAID WHAT WAS HE ACCESSING? WHAT WAS HE GOING ON? HE SAID, CAN'T TELL YOU. WE WILL LEARN FIRST UP THIS MORNING. THE OFFICER PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE TOO MUCH TIME LEFT. WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND IS WE'RE ASSUMELING NEIL ENTWISTLE IS ACCURATE WHEN HE SAYS HE FOUND HIS FAMILY AT 11:00 AND THAT DATE SOMEONE, HE, PERHAPS IS ON THE COMPUTER AT 12:30. YET THE PROSECUTOR DOESN'T PUT A LOT OF CREDENCE IN ENTWISTLE'S STATEMENT. WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE MEDICAL EXAMINER WHO WILL FIX A TIME OF DEATH OR RANGE FOR THE TIME OF DEATH TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS 12:30 ON JANUARY 20th. >> SO, BETH, WHEN JUDGE SAYS IT'S 1:00 IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T STOP NOW, I EXPECT YOU TO JUMP UP IN THAT COURTROOM AND SAY ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE IN SESSION VOW VIEWERS, YES, I HAVE A REASON. WE NEED TO KNOW. WE CAN'T GO ALL NIGHT AND WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT DAY TO FIND OUT. THAT IS JUST EXTRAORDINARY. I WONDER, BETH, IF TFTS LOST ON THE JURY THROUGH ALL OF THE TECHNICAL TESTIMONY THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS APPROXIMATELY AN HOUR AND A HALF AFTER THE KILLINGS OF RACHEL AND LILLIAN ENTWISTLE, SOMEBODY IS GOING TON THAT COMPUTER UNDER NEIL ENTWISTLE'S USER NAME AND PASSWORD AND DOING SOMETHING. DO YOU THINK THEY PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER WITH THE DATE AND THE TIME? >> WELL, THE PROSECUTOR WILL PUT IT TOGETHER IN SUMMATION. LET ME TELL YOU, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN HOUR AND A HALF AFTER THE KILLINGS. HE SAID HE FOUND THEM AT 11:00. THAT'S IF YOU BELIEVE HIM. I BELIEVE THE MEDICAL EXAMINER WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE NEXT WITNESS, BY THE WAY, IS GOING TO FIX A MUCH EARLIER DATE. CLOSER TO 7:00 IN THE MORNING WHICH WOULD MEAN 5 1/2 HOURS AFTER THE KILLINGS SOMEONE'S ON THE COMPUTER. WE NEED TO LISTEN AND SEE HOW PROSIS IS MEDICAL EXAMINER CAN BE. THE BODIES WERE IN THE HOUSE FOR SERL DAYS. A LOT OF VARIABLES. THE TEMPERATURE OF THE HOUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WOULD AFFECT AND WILL AFFECT, DID AFFECT HOW THE TIME OF DEATH WAS CALCULATED. I DON'T KNOW HOW SPECIFIC THE DOCTOR CAN BE. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE EXPECT LIVE TESTIMONY TO START UP IN A COUPLE MINUTES. MAYBE WE'LL GET THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS. IN THE MEANTIME, SOMETHING I THOUGHT WAS VERY SIGNIFICANT YESTERDAY WAS THE TESTIMONY THE COMPUTER INVESTIGATOR GAVE ABOUT SEARCHING DONE BETWEEN JANUARY 9th AND JANUARY 20th, THE DAY -- PRESUMABLY THE DAY OF THE KILLINGS. THAT'S ABOUT AN 11-DAYTIME PERIOD. ON JANUARY 9th SOMEBODY USING THAT USER NAME ENT WAS VISITING A LOT OF TRAVEL SITES. CHEAP FLIGHTS, FLYMANCHESTER.COM, BRITISH AIRWAYS.COM, MANCHESTERAIRPORT.CO.UK. SOMEBODY ON JANUARY 9th WAS LOOKING UP FLIGHTS TO ENGLAND 11 DAYS BEFORE THE MURDERS. THAT'S EXTRAORDINARY IF THE PROSECUTORS CAN PROVE THAT WAS NEIL ENTWISTLE. >> Reporter: AND IF INDEED A FLIGHT WAS PURCHASED, PERHAPS. WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET. AND IT MAY GO TO PREMEDITATION. HE WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS AND WAS THINKING HOW CAN I GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY QUICKLY. >> EXACTLY. >> Reporter: I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO ARGUE BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT EVIDENCE WAS COMING IN. THEY MOVED INTO THE HOUSE OR STARTED MOVING STUFF INTO THE HOUSE ON JANUARY 7th. BUT THEY DIDN'T START SLEEPING THERE UNTIL ABOUT THE 14th. >> THAT WAS JUST A LIVE PICTURE BY THE WAY OF NEIL ENTWISTLE ARRIVING IN THE COURTROOM. WE DO EXPECT LIVE TESTIMONY TO GET UNDER WAY SHORTLY. IF NEIL ENTWISTLE IS THE KILLER, THIS HAD TO BE A PREMEDITATED CRIME BECAUSE HE HAD TO HAVE GOTTEN JOE MATTERAZZO'S GUN PROBABLY A FEW DAYS BEFORE, BROUGHT IT TO THE HOUSE, SECRETED IT SOME MOW. THIS EVEN PUTS THE PREMEDITATION BACK 11 DAYS. PRESUMABLY HE DIDN'T BUY THE TICKET THEN, BETH, BECAUSE HE BOUGHT THE TICKET WHEN HE WENT TO THE AIRPORT. WE KNOW THAT. BUT HE COULD HAVE JUST BEEN LOOKING FOR FLIGHTS, CHECKING AVAILABILITY, PRICES, TIMES. HE'S SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR BRITISH FLIGHTS. BRITISH AIRWAYS. CHEAP FLIGHTS.CO.UK. THE ENTWISTLES WEREN'T PLANNING ANY TRIPS TO ENGLAND IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WERE THEY? >> Reporter: I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. I DO RECALL FROM THE AFFIDAVITS THAT WERE MADE PUBLIC BEFORE THE TRIAL, BUT NOT IN THE TESTIMONY AT THE TRIAL, THAT HE ACTUALLY HAD A TICKET FOR LATER IN THE DAY ON THE 21st. >> RIGHT. >> 2:30-ISH IN THE AFTERNOON. AND HE CHANGED IT TO 8:15 IN THE MORNING. I DON'T KNOW IF THE ACTUAL PURCHASE OF THE TICKET WITH THE VISA CARD WAS DONE THE SAME DAY HE LEFT OR THE CHANGE. THE CHANGE ON THE TICKET AND A CHANGE FEE HE PRESUMABLY WOULD HAVE HAD TO PAY. >> I HAVE SEVERAL GUESTS JOINING ME NOW. HERE FIRST DARN GEL BER IS A CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY AND FORMER PROSECUTOR. HOW ARE YOU DOING? >> GOOD. >> AND ROBIN BOND IS A PENNSYLVANIA BASED TRIAL ATTORNEY AND FORMER PROSECUTOR. WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. >> JOINING US LIVE FROM THE WOBURN COURTHOUSE WILLIAM. >> I'M ZOOMING THROUGH THE INTRODUCTIONS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE JURY IS COMING IN. WILLIAM, FIRST TO YOU, SOMEBODY WITH THE USER NAME ENT WHO'S VISITING PAY PAL AND EBAY SITES WAS ALSO VISITING HALF-PRICE ESCORTS.COM. MY FAVORITE, HOTLOCALESCORTS.COM. ESCORTS.NAUGHTYNIGHT LIFE.COM. THAT'S ON JANUARY 18th. TWO DAYS BEFORE THE MURDERS. HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT ON THE DEFENSE SIDE AND GET THE JURY NOT TO DESPITE NEIL ENTWISTLE? >> MY RESPONSE TO THIS, THIS IS A DEFENSE ATTORNEY'S NIGHTMARE. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. >> THAT'S NOT MUCH OF A RESPONSE. >> YEAH. BETH MADE A GOOD POINT. THESE REPEATED ENTRIES AND THESE REPEATED SEARCHES PRIOR TO THE DATE OF MURDERS GOES TO PREMEDITATION. I MEAN, HOW THE DEFENSE TEAM IS GOING TO MAKE A CASE THAT NOT ONLY DID HE NOT COMMIT THE MURDERS THE DAY OF THE CRIME BUT THAT IT WASN'T HIM GOING ON THIS COMPUTER WITH A PASSWORD PROTECTED ENTRY OF ENT, WHAT ELSE COULD IT BE THAN ENTWISTLE, HOW THE DEFENSE TEAM IS GOING TO OVERCOME THAT IS NOT CLEAR TO ME. >> I GOT TO INTERRUPT YOU. WE HAVE OFFICER JAMES LIVE IN THE COURTROOM RETURNING TO THE STAND. PERHAPS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION WHAT WAS SEARCHED AN HOUR AND A HALF AFTER NEIL ENTWISTLE SAYS HE FOUND THE BODIES. LET'S LISTEN. >> NOW, SIR, DO YOU RECOGNIZE THE DOCUMENT THAT I'M PLACING IN FRONT OF YOU? >> YES. >> LOOKING AT PAGE 13 OF THAT DOCUMENT, DOES IT INDICATE WHAT THE LAST INTERNET ACTIVITY USE FOR THAT COMPUTER WAS ON JANUARY 19th? >> THE FIRST OR THE LAST? >> THE LAST. ON JANUARY 19th. >> I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS THE PAGE NUMBER? >> PAGE 13, YOUR HONOR. >> NOT FOR THE 19th. >> PAGE 14, THEN, SIR. ON JANUARY 19th, ON PAGE 14, DOES IT INDICATE THE LAST USE OF THAT COMPUTER? >> IT INDICATES THE LAST USE OF THE INTERNET HISTORY, YES. >> OKAY. AND WITHOUT SAYING WHAT THE -- WHAT THE URL IS, WHAT TIME IS THAT? >> ON 1-19-2006 AT 1910:38. >> PAGE FOUR OF THE OTHER REPORT. NOW, SIR, I PLACED IN FRONT OF YOU A DOCUMENT. DO YOU RECOGNIZE THAT DOCUMENT? >> YES B I DO. >> WHAT HAS THAT DOCUMENT. >> THIS DOCUMENT IS PAGE FOUR IN A REPORT I PRODUCED USING ENCASE. >> AND WHEN YOU SAY A REPORT THAT YOU PRODUCED USING ENCASE, WHAT DID ENCASE DO TO CREATE THAT REPORT. >> THIS REPORT IS CALLED THE INITIALIZED CASE SCRIPT AND WITHIN ENCASE IT HAS SOME ENSCRIPTS THAT HAVE SOME AUTOMATED TASKS WHICH CAN GO IN AND PULL OUT PARTICULAR PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT ARE OF USE TO THE NVT TOR. >> WITH REGARDS TO PAGE FOUR, DOES IT INDICATE ENT USE? >> YES. >> EARLIER YOU TESTIFIED THAT YOU SYNCHRONIZED THE DATE AND TIME WITH YOUR NEXTEL TO THE COMPUTER. IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES. >> AND DOES THE COMPUTER INDICATE THE LAST LOG INFOR THE ENT USER? >> YES, IT DOES. >> WHAT WAS THE LAST LOG IN FOR THE ENT USER? >> IT WAS 1-20-06 AT 1229:37. >> AND FIVE SECONDS BEFORE THAT WAS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS DONE? >> YES. >> WHAT WAS DONE FIVE SECONDS BEFORE THAT? >> THERE WAS AN INCORRECT PASSWORD SUPPLIED FOR THE ENT ACCOUNT. >> NOW, SIR, LOOKING AT PAGE 1 THROUGH 13 OF THE NET ANALYSIS REPORT, BASED ON YOUR TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE, CAN YOU DETERMINE WHAT WAS DONE AT 1235 ONWARD ON JANUARY 20th WITH REGARDS TO THE ENT USER? >> WHAT WAS THE TIME RANGE YOU WANTED AGAIN? >> THE FIRST TIME THAT THE COMPUTER WAS LOGGED ON UNDER THE ENT USER FORWARD. >> MY EXAMINATION SHOWED THAT THE INTERNET ACTIVITY THAT WAS RECORDED IN THE INTERNET HISTORY FILES WAS RELATIVE TO THE OUTLOOK E-MAIL CLIENT BEING ACCESSED AND SEVERAL E-MAILS BEING VIEWED. >> WHAT'S THE OUTLOOK CLIENT? WHAT'S THE OUTLOOK E-MAIL? >> OUTLOOK IS AN E-MAIL CLIENT MADE BY MICROSOFT AND IT ALLOWS USERS TO PUT THE SETTINGS IN FOR THEIR E-MAIL ACCOUNTS AND ALLOWS THEM TO ACCESS E-MAILS, SEND E-MAILS, STORE E-MAILS AND HAS A VARIETY OF OTHER FUNCTIONS. >> NOW, SIR, BASED ON YOUR EARLIER REPORT YOU TESTIFIED ABOUT OFF OF PAGE FOUR, WOULD IT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE JUST TO WALK UP TO THAT COMPUTER AT 1235 AND JUST ACCESS IT UNDER THE ENT USER? >> NO. >> WHAT WOULD THE ENT USER HAVE TO HAVE DONE TO ACCESS THOSE E-MAILS? >> THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO SUPPLY THE PASSWORD TO LOG INTO THE COMPUTER IN ORDER TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE OUT LOOK E-MAIL CLIENT. >> NOW, SIR, WITH REGARDS TO THAT, WHAT WOULD THE ENT USER HAVE HAD TO DO TO ACCESS THE E-MAILS THAT YOU EARLIER TESTIFIED ABOUT? >> THE E-MAILS THEMSELVES WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN VIEWED. THE E-MAILS IN QUESTION WOULD HAD TO HAVE BEEN VIEWED IN ORDER TO GENERATE THE INTERNET HISTORY THAT I HAVE IN THIS REPORT. >> AND WHAT WOULD THE USER HAD TO HAVE PHYSICALLY DONE TO VIEW THOSE E-MAILS? >> THE E-MAILS, THERE'S TWO WAYS TO VIEW THEM. THE FIRST WAY WOULD BE TO HIGHLIGHT THE E-MAIL AND THEN THAT E-MAIL WOULD BE DISPLAYED IN THE PREVIEW PORTION OF THE E-MAIL CLIENT IF THAT FEATURE WAS ENABLED. AND THE SECOND WAY WOULD BE TO DOUBLE CLICK ON THE E-MAIL AND THAT WOULD OPEN IT IN A SEPARATE WINDOW. >> SIR, IS THERE ANY INTERNET ACTIVITY ON THAT COMPUTER BASED ON YOUR FINDINGS FROM 9:00 TO 11:00 A.M. ON JANUARY 20th? >> NO. >> IS THERE ANY INTERNET ACTIVITY ON THAT COMPUTER BETWEEN 11:00 A.M. AND 12:00? >> NO. >> IS THERE ANY INTERNET ACTIVITY BEFORE 9:00 A.M. ON THAT COMPUTER? >> NO. >> THERE IS AN ECHO. WOULD YOU JUST MOVE THOSE TWO MICROPHONES FARTHER APART? SEE IF THAT'S WHAT'S CREATING IT? ALL RIGHT. YES, IF YOU COULD, ARE YOU ABLE, SIR, TO MOVE THAT SILVER MICROPHONE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE? >> OVER HERE, YOUR HONOR? >> AND MAY I SEE COUNSEL FOR A MOMENT, PLEASE? >> I'M NOT ABLE TO DO THAT, YOUR HONOR. IT'S TAPED. >> YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT? COULD YOU HELP HIM? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >>> CHECKING E-MAIL. CHECKING HIS OUTLOOK E-MAIL ACCOUNT. EITHER NEIL ENTWISTLE WAS DOING THAT JUST SHORTLY AFTER HE FOUND THE BODIES OF HIS WIFE AND BABY OR SOMEBODY ELSE WAS DOING IT UNDER HIS USER NAME AND PASSWORD. WE'VE SEEN FORENSIC COMPUTER SPECIALIST LAWRENCE JAMES TESTIFY ABOUT WHAT HE FOUND ON THE HARD DRIVES OF SEVERAL COMPUTERS SEIZED IN THE ENTWISTLE INVEST. OFFICER JAMES DESCRIBED THE INTERNET USAGE HISTORY OF ONE LAPTOP TAKEN FROM THE ENTWISTLES' HOME. >> WHAT IS THE DATE AND TIME AND THIS VISIT OCCURRED? >> IT'S 1-16-2006 AT 1254:45. >> THE RESOURCE AREA IS -- MENTIONS A -- THE RESOURCE OF THE TITLE IN THIS CASE, WHAT WAS PERFORMED ON THE SEARCH THAT DAY. >> AND WHAT WAS -- WHAT DOES IT SAY IN THAT RESOURCE AREA? >> THE RESOURCE AREA IN THIS IS, IN QUOTATION MARKS, HOW TO KILL WITH A KNIFE. >>> OFFICER JAMES THEN TESTIFIED THAT THE ENTWISTLES' COMPUTER HISTORY ALSO SHOWED A USER ACCESSING PORNOGRAPHIC AND ESCORT SERVICE WEBSITES. SO TODAY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY IS, IS THERE AN INNOCENT EXPLANATION FOR THE COMPUTER SEARCHES? THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO PLAY CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY FOR THE DAY. SEND US YOUR ANSWERS. JUST LOG ON TO CNN.COM/CRIME AND CLICK ON "OPEN COURT." OR E-MAIL US DIRECTLY AT OPENCOURT@CNN.COM. WRITE A BRIEF ANSWER AND WE'LL READ ONE OF YOUR RESPONSES AT THE END OF THE SHOW. COULD BE YOURS. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. >>> WHO WAS THE USER? >> ENT. >> AND WHAT IS BEING ACCESSED IN THE URL? >> ESCORTS.NAUGHTYNIGHTLIFE.COM. >> WHOSE THE USER, SIR? >> ENT. >> WHAT'S BEING ACCESSED BY THE COMPUTER THERE, SIR? >> ADULT FRIEND FINDER.COM. >> IT'S FAIR TO SAY THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR ESCORTS ON THAT PAGE, SIR? >> YES. >> REFERRING TO THE TOP ONE, WHAT'S THE NAME ON THE TOP CHOICE? >> BLOND BEAUTIES ESCORT SERVICE. >> JUST WHEN YOU THINK IT CAN'T GET ANY WORSE FOR NEIL ENTWISTLE, IT DOES GET WORSE. THAT'S THE COMPUTER EXPERT TESTIFYING YESTERDAY ON SEARCHES DONE ON ENTWISTLE'S LAPTOP TWO DAYS, TWO DAYS BEFORE THE BRUTAL MURDER OF HIS YOUNG WIFE AND BUYBY DAUGHTER. THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS SAYS HE'S THE ONE THAT COMMITTED THOSE CRIMES AND TWO DAYS BEFORE THERE HE IS ON BLOOND BEAUTIES ESCORT SERVICE.COM. ADULT FRIEND FINDER.COM WHICH IS A WEBSITE DESIGNED TO FIND SEX PARTNERS. YOU CAN SEE THE ATTORNEYS WERE IN A SIDE BAR. JUST BREAKING UP. QUICKLY TO DARN GEL BER, SHOULD ENTWISTLE TAKE THE STAND AND EXPLAIN THIS? >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE HE'S GOING TO DO TO DEFEND HIMSELF. IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT CHOICE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO TRIAL IN A CASE LIKE THIS MAYBE YOU GOT TO GET UP THERE AND SAY SOMETHING. OR ELSE WHAT ARE PEOPLE GOING TO JUDGE YOU ON? >> I HAPPEN TO THINK ACTUALLY HE CAN GET AROUND THE ESCORT STUFF BY SAYING LOOK, YOU KNOW, I'M A YOUNG GUY AND I WAS INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT PICTURES OF NAKED WOMEN ON THE BER R INTERNET BUT I NEVER GOT TOGETHER WITH AN ESCORT, NEVER HIRED A PROSTITUTE, DIDN'T HAVE LIAISONS, AFFAIRS. THIS WAS JUST ME AS A YOUNG MALE BLOWING OFF STEAM AND LOOKING AT THIS. THE HARDER QUESTION IS HOW TO KILL. ROBIN BOND, THOSE SEARCHES DONE JUST DAYS BEFORE THE MURDERS. >> I LOVE HOW YOU GIVE ME THE HARDER QUESTIONS. >> THEY'RE ALL HARD QUESTIONS FOR DEFENSE ATTORNEYS. >> I THINK THAT JUST GOES TO PREMEDITATION. I THINK IT JUST LOOKS LIKE HE WITH HIS SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND BEING THE ELECTRICAL ENGINEER WITH A MASTERS IN BUSINESS THAT HE HAS, IT JUST LOOKS AS THOUGH HE WAS PLANNING ALL THIS. BECAUSE PART OF HIS DEFENSE IS, OH, MY GOD, I DISCOVERED THESE DEAD BODIES AND IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF KILLING MYSELF BUT OF COURSE I COULDN'T QUITE PULL IT OFF. TO ME AS A PROSECUTOR, I WOULD HAVE A FIELD DAY WITH THAT. >> YEAH. YOU CERTAINLY WOULD. I MEAN, PREMEDITATION CAN BE FORMED IN AN INSTANT IN THE LAW OF MASSACHUSETTS AND THE LAW OF EVERY STATE. YOU'VE GOT A LOT MORE THAN AN INSTANT HERE. YOU'VE GOT DAYS AND DAYS WHERE HE HAD THE TIME TO DO THE PLANS ON THE INTERNET, TO DISCOVER THAT THE BEST WAY TO STAB SOMEBODY WITH A KNIFE IS IN THE RIB CAGE. THAT'S THE SITE HE WAS LOOKING AT, WE DISCOVERED YESTERDAY. AND COINCIDENCE OF COINCIDENCES, POOR BABY LILLIAN WAS SHOT IN THE STOMACH. THAT MAY BE BASED ON WHAT HE LEARNED ON THE WEB. LET'S GO BACK IN AND LISTEN TO SOME DOCUMENTS JUST BEING ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE. I THINK WE HAVE LIVE TESTIMONY NOW. LET'S LISTEN IN. >> MAY I APPROACH THE WITNESS, YOUR HONOR? >> YES. >> SIR, I'M PLACING IN FRONT OF YOU -- >> I APOLOGIZE. >> I'M PLACING BEFORE YOU A PAGE FROM EXHIBIT 86. IS THERE A IDENTIFYING CHARACTERISTIC ON THAT PAGE? >> YES. >> WHAT IS THAT PAGE? THIS PAGE CONTAINS USER DATA FOR THE ACCOUNT SR PUB AT ADULT FRIEND FINDER.COM. >> YOUR HONOR, I'D ASK TO PUBLISH THAT TO THE JURY AT THIS TIME. >> YES, YOU MAY. >>> I AM LOOKING FOR ONE ON ONE DISCREET RELATIONSHIPS WITH AMERICAN LADIES AND ALWAYS AIM TO MAKE ALL EXPERIENCES ONES TO REMEMBER. >> THAT WAS NEIL ENTWISTLE'S LISTING ON THE ADULT FRIEND FINDER.COM WEBSITE. THAT WAS READ INTO EVIDENCE JUST MOMENTS AGO OVER THE BREAK. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SAW THAT BECAUSE THE JURY JUST SAW THAT LISTING FROM NEIL ENTWISTLE WHO TOLD PEOPLE HE WAS LOOKING TO MEET AMERICAN WOMEN OF ALL AGES FOR DISCREET RELATIONSHIPS. HE SAID I WANTED TO CONFIRM WHAT MY BRITISH FRIENDS HAVE TOLD ME. THAT AMERICAN WOMEN ARE BETTER IN BED. LET'S GO BACK INTO THE COURTROOM AND LISTEN NOW LIVE AS INVESTIGATOR JAMES CONTINUES TO TESTIFY. >> BELOW THE EXPIR RATION DATE IS THERE OTHER INFORMATION? >> YES. >> WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THAT INFORMATION? >> YES. MR. NEIL ENTWISTLE, 1-19 SWAN DRIVE, W RRKZ ORKZ KRRKZ SRKZ UNITED KINGDOM. >> OVER IN THE ORDER INFORMATION, THE NEXT COLUMN OVER, IS THERE A TERM FOR PAYMENT? >> YES. >> AND WHAT'S THE TERM FOR PAYMENT? >> LET ME -- CAN I CLARIFY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR EXACTLY? THE TERMS OF PAYMENT? >> LET ME SEE IF I CAN FOCUS IT IN. DOES IT SAY TOTAL SOMEWHERE? >> YES. >> WHAT'S THE TOTAL? >> $19.95. >> AND ABOVE THAT IS THERE A DATE? >> YES. >> AND WHAT'S THAT? >> 12-21-2005, 3:14 P.M. >> NOW, GOING DOWN BELOW THE COST DETAIL SECTION, IS THERE A DATE WHEN THIS MEMBERSHIP EXPIRES? >> YES. >> WHAT'S THE DATE? >> 1-21-2006. >> OKAY. NOW GOING OVER TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE UNDER USER INFORMATION, IS THERE A HANDLE? >> YES. >> WHAT'S THAT? >> SR PUB. >> IS THERE AN E-MAIL? >> YES. >> AND WHAT IS THE E-MAIL? >> SUPPORT@MONEYHOUND.BIS. >> AND IS THERE A PASSWORD? >> YES. >> WHAT'S THE PASSWORD? >> SR PUBLICATIONS. >> AND TO ENTER THIS SITE BASED ON THIS INFORMATION, WOULD YOU NEED TO ENTER THAT PASSWORD? >> YES. >> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, YOUR HONOR. >> GOOD MORNING, JAMES. >> GOOD MORNING, SIR. >> YOU WERE ASKED TO ASSIST IN THIS INVESTIGATION OTHER THAN BY SOMEBODY IN YOUR OWN DEPARTMENT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WAS THAT BY SOMEBODY FROM WITHIN THE MASSACHUSETTS STATE POLICE? >> NO. I BELIEVE IT WAS THROUGH -- NO. >> WAS IT FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? >> YES. >> AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE SPECIAL LEARNINGS AND WORK THAT YOU'VE DEVELOPED WITH USE OF COMPUTER SEARCH SOFTWARE? >> I'M UNAWARE OF WHY THEY REACHED OUT TO US. I JUST KNOW THAT THEY DID. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, THE OTHER FELLOW THAT'S LEARNED HOW TO USE ENCASE? >> YES. >> AND NET ANALYSIS? >> YES. >> AND YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE PART OF THE COMPUTER INVESTIGATION WORK OF POLICE, YOU'RE ONE OF THE FEW FOLKS IN MASSACHUSETTS THAT ACTUALLY HAS DEVELOPED THIS TALENT? >> YES. >> AND IT'S NOT UNUSUAL THAT YOU'RE CALLED UPON BY EITHER OTHER CITIES OR TOWNS TO HELP IN THEIR INVESTIGATIONS WHEN A COMPUTER IS INVOLVED? >> IT'S NOT UNUSUAL, CORRECT. >> AND IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR THE STATE PLITS TO CALL YOU IN TO HELP THEM? >> NOT USUAL, CORRECT. >> AND CERTAINLY NOT UNUSUAL FOR SOMEONE FROM A COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO CALL YOU IN? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID IN THIS CASE? >> I BELIEVE SO, YES. >> AND YOU ACTUALLY -- SOMEBODY GAVE YOU A COMPUTER? >> YES. >> TO ANALYZE? >> YES. >> GAVE YOU THAT COMPUTER? >> WHICH COMPUTER? THERE WAS SEVERAL COMPUTERS. >> WELL, I'M GOING TO ASK ABOUT THEM ALL. >> OKAY. >> WHO GAVE YOU THE COMPUTER YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE LAST DAY AND A QUARTER. >> I RECEIVED THAT FROM THE STATE POLICE. >> DO YOU KNOW WHO IT WAS? >> I BELIEVE IT WAS TROOPER BANKS AND TROOPER MANNING. >> THE ONLY COMPUTER THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THUS FAR IS THE LAPTOP? >> NO. I BELIEVE WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT TWO. >> DID YOU ANALYZE -- DID YOU ACTUALLY GO THROUGH VARIOUS OTHER HARD DRIVES AND CLONE THEM? >> I PERFORMED FORENSIC DUPLICATES, YES. >> IS THAT WHAT CLONING IS? >> NO. >> OKAY. SO THE PROPER TERM IS A FORENSIC DUPLICATE? >> THAT WOULD BE CORRECT, YES, SIR. >> AND ONE OF THOSE WAS OFFERED EITHER AS AN EXHIBIT OR IDENTIFICATION ITEM YESTERDAY? >> YES. >> WERE YOU EVER GIVEN A COMPUTER THAT CAME FROM AN ATTORNEY MICHAEL FEE? >> I DON'T RECALL ONE, NO. >> WERE YOU AWARE THAT A HARD DRIVE WAS IN A BOX OF -- WHICH CONTAINED JOURNALS AND LETTERS AND THE LIKE THAT CAME OUT OF 6 CUBS PATH? >> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO. >> NO ONE EVER TOLD YOU ABOUT THAT? >> I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT, NO. >> IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT I GUESS IT'S OBVIOUS NOBODY EVER ASKED YOU TO DO THIS -- ANY KIND OF FORENSIC ANALYSIS OF IT? >> CORRECT. >> YOU SPOKE A LITTLE WHILE AGO THIS MORNING ABOUT SOME OF THE ANALYSIS OF THE HARD DRIVE THAT RELATED TO THE DATE JANUARY 20, 2006? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT A USER WHO LOGGED ON TO THAT LAPTOP COMPUTER? >> YES. >> AND THE USER VISITED CERTAIN SITES? >> THERE WAS BROWSER ACTIVITY, YES. >> AND THAT SOME OF THE SITES RELATED TO E-MAILS? >> YES. >> AND WHAT YOU DO KNOW, DO YOU NOT, IS THAT THE VISITS TO THAT COMPUTER ON THE 20th OF JANUARY HAD TO DO WITH JOB SEARCHES? >> I BELIEVE SO, YES. >> AND THE E-MAILS HAD TO DO WITH JOB SEARCHES? >> YES. >> THE COMPUTER THAT PRIMARILY YOU TALKED ABOUT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS COMING FROM A LAPTOP FROM 6 CUBS PATH? >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. >> WHEN YOU DO THE WORK OR WHEN YOU DID THE WORK THAT YOU DID, YOU HAD A COMPUTER MONITOR ALSO? >> YES. >> AND YOU WERE ABLE TO VIEW THINGS THAT WOULD -- ON THE SCREEN THAT WAS IN FRONT OF YOU? >> YES. >> AND IF IT WAS COMING OFF OF THE -- OF A FORENSIC DUPLICATE THAT YOU MADE, YOU WOULD SEE THINGS THAT WERE SORT OF GENERATED FROM THE HARD DRIVE OR THE COPY OF THE HARD DRIVE? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> JUST AS IF ONE WERE SITTING AT THE LAPTOP ITSELF AND LOOKING AT THE SCREEN OF THE LAPTOP? >> NO. THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT. >> YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE, FOR EXAMPLE -- AND I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW SOME OF THE TECHNICAL TERMS. BUT IF I TURN ON MY COMPUTER AND IT DOES THAT LITTLE SONG AND IT GOES WINDOWS XP, WHAT'S THAT PAGE CALLED OR THAT SCREEN CALLED? IS THAT THE LOGON? >> WHEN THE SOUND IS GENERATED? >> NOT THE SOUND BUT WHEN IT SAYS WINDOWS XP, ELLIOT WINESTEIN, I'VE GOT TO TYPE IN MY LITTLE CODE. >> THAT WOULD BE THE LOG IN STREEN. >> AND THE SCREEN THAT COMES IN -- WHEN YOU HAVE THE LOG IN SCREEN YOU LEARNED THAT THERE WERE THREE ACCOUNTS THAT WERE SORT OF DEDICATED TO THE HARD DRIVE? >> NO. THAT WASN'T HOW I DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS THREE USER ACCOUNTS. >> DID YOU SEE THE LOG IN SCREEN? >> YES, I DID. >> AND ON THE LOG IN SCREEN THERE WERE THOSE THREE SUCH LABELS OR LINES WHICH SHOWED THE THREE ACCOUNTS, CONTRACTOR ENT, INTERNET PHOTOS? >> I DON'T BELIEVE THE ACCOUNTS WERE IN THE DROP DOWN MENU. >> ALL RIGHT. THERE'S ANOTHER THING, FOR LACK OF A MORE SCIENTIFIC TERM, CALLED THE BACKGROUND OR WALLPAPER OR DESKTOP IMAGE? >> YES. >> AND ON -- ON THE COMPUTER THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT, THERE WAS A PHOTOGRAPH THAT WAS THE DESKTOP U IMAGE, YES? >> I BELIEVE THERE WAS, YES. >> AND THAT'S WHAT THE DESKTOP IMAGE DISPLAYED? >> OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T RECALL. I MAY HAVE PRODUCED A COPY OF THE DESKTOP. I DON'T RECALL THE ACTUAL IMAGE IN THE WALLPAPER. >> THAT DOESN'T TELL YOU THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAW WHEN YOU SAW THE DESKTOP IMAGE? >> FROM MY RECOLLECTION, I DON'T RECALL. IT IS FAMILIAR TO ME, THOUGH. >> WELL, WHAT IS GOING TO HELP YOU TO DETERMINE THAT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE DESKTOP IMAGE WAS? >> IF I PRODUCED A SCREEN SHOT OF THAT DESKTOP IMAGE. >> ALL RIGHT. GO FIND IT. >> I DON'T RECALL IF IT WAS PRODUCED. >> COULD YOU STIPULATE? >> WE'LL STIPULATE. >> EXHIBIT 87 MARKED. >> THAT PHOTOGRAPH BY STIPULATION WITH THE PROSECUTORS' OFFICE IS THE DESKTOP IMAGE THAT WAS ON THAT COMPUTER LAPTOP? >> YES. >> DO YOU RECALL LOOKING AT OTHER PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WERE MEMORIALIZED IN THE COMPUTER HARD DRIVE? FOR EXAMPLE, THAT PHOTOGRAPH? >> YOUR HONOR? >> YES. >> COULD WE HAVE A SIDE BAR? >> ALL RIGHT. >>> WHIP SAWING EMOTIONS IN THAT COURTROOM THIS MORNING. FIRST THE JURY HEARS THAT SOMEBODY, PRESUMABLY NEIL ENTWISTLE, BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN PROVEN CONCLUSIVELY, SOMEBODY'S ON ENTWISTLE'S LAPTOP USING HIS USER NAME AND PASSWORD AN HOUR AND A HALF AFTER HE SAYS HE FOUND THE BODIES CHECKING HIS ADULT FRIEND FINDER.COM E-MAILS LOOKING FOR SEX PARTNER. THEN ON CROSS-EXAMINATION WE LEARN OF THE PHOTO THAT SERVES AS THE DESKTOP FOR THAT LAPTOP. AN ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS PICTURE OF BABY LILLIAN LOOKING LIKE A LITTLE GERBER BABY MODEL. SHE COULD NOT BE MORE GORGEOUS. THAT'S THE BABY WHO WAS BRUTALLY SHOT IN THE CHEST AND MURDERED. ROBIN BOND, DOES IT HELP NEIL ENTWISTLE THAT HE HAD A PICTURE OF BABY LILLIAN ON HIS COMPUTER? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK SO. AGAIN, IT JUST MAKES ME REALLY, REALLY SAD WHEN I SEE IT. AS A PERSON WHO DEALS WITH A LOT OF WORKPLACE ISSUES, I HAVE A LOT OF SIMP PA THI FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT OF WORK AND I APPRECIATE HOW WHEN YOU'RE OUT OF WORK, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET VERY DESPERATE. AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THE DEFENSE COUNSEL HERE IS TRYING TO DO IS SAY THIS IS THE GUY WHO WAS OUT OF WORK AND TRYING DESPERATELY TO GET A JOB. MAYBE THAT'S WHERE HE'S GOING TO GO WITH THIS. HE'S GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE GUY, IF HE DID THIS, IF HIS CLIENT IS FOUND GUILTY, HE'S GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ARE OUT OF WORK THEY'RE TERRIBLY STRESSED AND THEY DO CRAZY THINGS. THEIR ANGER OR THEIR DEPRESSION EITHER GOES INWARD OR IT GOES OUTWARD AND THEY DO CRAZY THINGS LIKE ROAD RAGE, RAGE AGAINST COWORKERS, OR SPOUSAL ABUSE, CHILD ABUSE OR EVEN IN CRAZY INSTANCES, MURDER. >> AN EXPLANATION BUT CERTAINLY NOT A JUSTIFICATION. >> RIGHT. >> IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP HIM LEGALLY, RIGHT, ROBIN? >> ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THE DEFENSE IS MAYBE TRYING TO GO TO. WHAT IS THE DEFENSE GOING TO DO HERE? >> I JUST WONDER WHAT THIS WITNESS IS GOING TO SAY. TIME TO LOOK AT TODAY'S 13th JUROR QUESTION. DO SEARCHES DONE ON ENTWISTLE'S COMPUTER HELP THE PROSECUTION? LIKE HOW TO KILL WITH A KNIFE, FOR EXAMPLE. JUST LOGON TO CNN.COM/CRIME AND CLICK ON 13th JUROR TO CAST YOUR VOTE. LATER IN THE SHOW WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT HOW YOU'RE VOTING. STAY WITH US. >>> HALF PRICED ESCORTS AND NAUGHTY NIGHT LIFE.COM. A COMPUTER EXPERT REVEALS POTENTIALLY DAMAGING EVIDENCE AGAINST NEIL ENT WIS PL CAN THE DEFENSE EXPLAIN IT AWAY? >>> WELCOME BACK. WE ARE LIVE. DEFENSE ATTORNEY ELLIOT WINESTEIN HAS THE PROSECUTION'S COMPUTER INVESTIGATOR ON CROSS-EXAMINATION. LET'S WATCH. >> AND THERE WERE SEVERAL TRAVEL SITES THAT WERE ACCESSED OR USED TO SEARCH FOR TRAVEL INFORMATION? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AIRLINE INFORMATION? >> YES. >> RESERVATION INFORMATION? >> YES. >> THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO MANCHESTER IN WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY? >> YES. >> I'M GOING TO WAIT SO THAT THE PROSECUTOR HAS HIS COPY. >> YES, SIR. THANK YOU. >> MR. JAMES, WHEN YOU REFERRED IN YOUR TESTIMONY YESTERDAY TO COMPUTER ACTIVITY ON JANUARY 9, 2006, AT 1730:21 OR 5:30 IN THE AFTERNOON -- >> YES. >> -- AND YOU REFERENCED IT AND TESTIFIED TO IT AS AN ACCESS OR VISIT TO LAST MINUTE.COM? >> CORRECT. >> BUT YOU KNOW, DO YOU NOT, THAT THAT WAS A VISIT WHICH WAS SEEKING INFORMATION REGARDING A ROUND TRIP AIR TRAVEL? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT. >> LET'S TAKE A LOOK. >> YEP. >> YOU'VE INTERPRETED A LOT OF INFORMATION OFF OF THESE DOCUMENTS DURING THE COURSE OF YOUR TESTIMONIES. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS AND SEE IF THIS IS, IN FACT, WHAT THIS RECORD AND OTHER RECORDS RELATE TO. THAT ACCESS, LAST MINUTE TRAVEL, 9 JANUARY, CON SIS PENT WITH THE OTHER VISITS TO TRAVEL ON 9 JANUARY RELATED TO A FLIGHT FROM MANCHESTER IN UNITED KINGDOM TO BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS, FOR TRAVEL TO TWO ADULTS, NO CHILDREN, NO INFANTS, DEPARTING MANCHESTER, ENGLAND, ON APRIL 6 TO RETURN ON APRIL 18, LOOKING FOR THE BEST PRICE IN BRITISH POUND CURRENCY? >> THAT'S WHAT IT -- AT THE BOTTOM, IT'S A VERY LONG CRYPTIC URL. >> LET'S TAKE A LOOK TOGETHER. >> OKAY. >> BEST PRICE. >> BEST PRICE, UH-HUH. >> ORIGIN, MANCHESTER. >> MAN, YES. >> SIR, I AM SORRY. I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. YOU HAVE TO SPEAK UP. >>,AN, YES. >> DESTINATION, BOSTON. >> CORRECT. >> NUMBER OF ADULTS, TWO? NUMBER ADULTS, TWO? >> TWO. CORRECT. >> NUMBER OF CHILDREN, ZERO? >> CORRECT. >> NUMBER OF INFANTS, ZERO? >> CORRECT. >> DEPARTURE DATE, 6, THE MONTH IS 4? >> CORRECT. >> APRIL 4 -- APRIL 6th. DEPARTURE MONTH, 4, APRIL, DAY, 18. SO DEPARTURE, MEANING THE RETURN HAVING COME FROM MANCHESTER TO BOSTON? >> CORRECT. >> LOOKING FOR THE BEST PRICE? >> YES. >> AND LOOKING FOR IT IN THE CURRENCY, ENGLISH POUNDS? >> CORRECT. >> MR. FABBRI, HERE'S YOUR CHANCE. DO YOU REMEMBER THE SPOTS THAT I JUST WENT THROUGH WITH YOU? >> YES. >> WE STARTED WITH THE ORIGIN, MANCHESTER? >> CORRECT. >> THEN WE DETERMINED THE DESTINATI DESTINATION. DESTINATION, BOSTON? >> CORRECT. >> THEN WE LOOKED FOR THE NUMBER OF ADULTS FOR THIS FUTURE TRAVEL. NUMBER OF ADULTS WAS TWO? >> CORRECT. >> THEN WE DETERMINED THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN. ZERO? >> CORRECT. >> THE NUMBER OF INFANTS, ZERO? >> CORRECT. >> WE DETERMINED THE DEPARTURE DATE? >> YES. >> WE DETERMINED THAT THE MONTH WAS 4, THAT'S APRIL, AND THE DAY WAS 6, APRIL 6th? >> CORRECT. >> THEN DETERMINED THAT THE NEXT DEPARTURE, OR THE RETURN TO DOSSEN, WAS GOING TO BE ON DEPARTURE TO BOSTON ON APRIL, AGAIN, 18th. CORRECT? >> YES. >> LET'S CONFIRM THE RETURN DAY. 18. RETURN MONTH, THE 4th. >> CORRECT. >> SPEAK IING BEST PRICE, CORRE? >> YES. >> PAYMENT IN THE CURRENCY GBP, WHICH IS GREAT BRITAIN POUNDS? >> CORRECT. >>> A SMALL BUT IMPORTANT POINT WAS JUST SCORED THERE FOR THE DEFENSE BY ELLIOT WINESTEIN. THOSE SEARCHES DONE ON BRITISH AIRWAYS.COM, CHEAP FLIGHTS.CO.UK FLY MANCHESTER.COM BY KNEEL ENTWISTLE PRESUMABLY DAYS BEFORE THE KILLINGS. THOSE SEARCHES WERE DONE FOR A TRIP ORIGINATING IN MANCHESTER ENGLAND, GOING TO BOSTON, RETURNING TO MANCHESTER FOR TWO ADULTS, NO CHILDREN, NO INFANTS. PRESUMABLY HE WAS LOOKING UP A FLIGHT FOR APRIL FOR EITHER HIS PARENTS OR BRITISH FRIENDS TO COME VISIT. LESS SINISTER THAN THE PROSECUTOR LED US TO BELIEVE. YOU CAN TAKE A MOMENT TO WRITE FOR US AND ANSWER OUR QUESTION OF THE DAY. IS THERE AN INNOCENT EXPLANATION FOR THOSE COMPUTER SEARCHES? YOU JUST HEARD ONE. E-MAIL US DIRECTLY AT OPENCOURT@CNN.COM. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. >>> WELCOME BACK. JUST MOMENTS AGO A NEW WITNESS TOOK THE STAND. HE'S DR. WILLIAM ZAN, THE MEDICAL EXAMINER. LET'S TAKE A LOOK. >> WHAT IS AN AUTOPSY IF YOU COULD DEFINE IT FOR US? >> IT'S AN EXTERNAL EXAMINATION, AN INTERNAL EXAMINATION WHERE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE TAKEN, DIAGRAMS ARE MADE. SOME INFORMATION IS OBTAINED. AND INCISIONS ARE MADE INTO THE BODY. WE LOOK FOR NATURAL DISEASE, EVIDENCE OF VIOLENT TRAUMA, AND WE'LL LOOK FOR TOX COLOGICAL -- WE DO TOXICOLOGY TESTS. TECHMICALLY IT'S AN INCISION INTO THE SCALP. THE SKULL AND BRAIN ARE EXAMINED. THEN AN INCISION INTO THE CHEST AND AND TO EXAMINE THE CHEST ORGANS AND ABDOMENAL ORGANS. CORRELATE THE PRESENCE OR ABSENCE OF TRAUMA EXTERNALLY WITH WHAT WE SEE INTERNALLY IF IT'S THERE. THE SAME WITH NATURAL DISEASE. >> OVER ALL WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF AN AUTOPSY? >> TO DETERMINE CAUSE OF DEATH WHEN IT'S SUDDEN OR UNEXPECTED. >> HOW MANY AUTOPSIES HAVE YOU DONE OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS THAT YOU'VE BEEN WITH THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE, SIR? >> APPROXIMATELY 6,000 OR MORE. >> AND HOW MANY OF THOSE INVOLVED HOMICIDES? >> PROBABLY ABOUT -- EXCUSE ME. APPROXIMATELY 10%. BETWEEN 500 AND 600. >> AND HOW MANY OF YOUR AUTOPSIES, SIR, APPROXIMATELY, IF YOU CAN, HAVE INVOLVED GUNSHOT WOUNDS OR A GUNSHOT WOUND? >> APPROXIMATELY 200 OR MORE FOR GUNSHOT WOUND HOMICIDES AND PROBABLY THAT NUMBER OR MORE FOR GUNSHOT WOUND SUICIDES. >> AND THERE'S CERTAIN PROCEDURES THAT YOU FOLLOW DURING AN AUTOPSY INCLUDING DOCUMENTING YOUR FINDINGS AND RESULTS? >> YES. >> AND WHAT TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION IS DONE IN CONNECTION WITH AN AUTOPSY? >> I WRITE NOTES. I TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS, DIRECT SOMEBODY TO TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS. I TAKE SAMPLES OF BODY FLUIDS TO BE EXAMINED AT ANOTHER LAB. AND I WRITE A REPORT. >> DO YOU PERFORM AUTOPSY ON YOUR OWN OR ARE YOU ASSISTED BY OTHERS? >> I HAVE AN ASSISTANT ON MOST DAYS HELPING. >> AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU WORK IN CONNECTION WITH THE STATE POLICE CRIME SERVICES CONNECTION? >> THE STATE POLICE ARE INVOLVED IN A CASE, THEY USUALLY PROVIDE SOMEONE TO TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS. >> SIR, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS A TRACE EXAMINATION ON A BODY? >> YES. >> AND WHAT IS THAT? >> IT'S AN EXAMINATION THAT THE POLICE PERFORM WHERE THE CLOTHING, IF IT'S PREPT, IS REMOVED. THEY DO SPECIAL LIGHTING. THEY MAY DUST THE BODY FOR FINGERPRINTS. THEY LOOK FOR TRACE EVIDENCE. SMALL PARTICLES THAT MIGHT BE ON THE BODY THAT MIGHT BE NOT FROM, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE OF SIGNIFICANCE TO THEM. >> IS THAT DONE AS PART OF -- I'M SORRY. >> THAT'S WHAT I KNOW. >> IS THAT DONE AS PART OF THE AUTOPSY PROCESS? >> NOT PART OF MY AUTOPSY PROCESS. IT'S USUALLY PERFORMED BEFORE BY THE POLICE. >> AND WHERE IS IT PERFORMED? >> IN THE SAME BUILDING. >> AND THE CRIME SCENE SERVICES SECTION, IS THAT THE UNIT INVOLVED IN PERFORMING THAT? >> YES. >> I WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION, SIR, IF I COULD TO JANUARY 24th, 2006. WERE YOU WORKING THAT DAY? >> JANUARY 2006? >> JANUARY 24th, 2006. >> YES, I WAS. >> DID YOU HAVE AN OCCASION TO PERFORM TWO AUTOPSIES THAT DAY AT THE OFFICE OF THE CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER IN BOSTON? >> YES. >> AND WHAT WAS THE FIRST AUTOPSY THAT YOU PERFORMED? UPON WHOM WAS IT PERFORMED? >> I BELIEVE IT WAS THE ADULT, THE YOUNG ADULT. >> AND DO YOU RECALL HER NAME. >> IT WAS RACHEL ENTWISTLE. >> AND, SIR, TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU NEED TO REFER TO A REPORT, WHEN YOU DO, COULD YOU LET THE COURT AND US KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING NA? >> I WILL. >> AND I TAKE IT YOU HAVE YOUR REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU? >> YES. >> AT THE BEGINNING OF THE AUTOPSY DID YOU DETERMINE THE HEIGHT AND WEIGHT OF RACHEL ENTWISTLE? >> YES. >> AND WHAT WAS THAT? >> I'D LIKE TO REFER TO MY NOTES. THAT SHE WAS 62 INCHES AND 159 POUNDS. >> DO YOU RECALL WHO ELSE WAS THERE DURING THE AUTOPSY ASSISTING YOU OR OBSERVING THE AUTOPSY? >> THERE WAS TROOPER JULIE MOESLY FROM CRIME SCENE SERVICES. THE STATE POLICE PHOTOGRAPHER. THERE WAS -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TROOPER OR SERGEANT ED FOSTER. MIDDLESEX STATE POLICE. THERE WAS A DETECTIVE FROM HOPKINTON. VanRAALTEN. AND I'D LIKE TO CHECK -- THERE WAS ALSO A TROOPER BY THE NAME OF STEVEN WALSH. >> WHAT IS THE FIRST STEP THAT YOU PERFORMED WHEN PERFORMING THE AUTOPSY ON THE BODY OF RACHEL ENTWISTLE THAT DAY? >> THE -- IT WAS AN EXTERNAL EXAMINATION. NOTING HER FEATURES SUCH AS HER HEIGHT AND HER WEIGHT. BODY BUILD. THEN OBSERVATIONS OF SOME TRAUMA THAT I'D SEEN ON THE CHEST. >> AND WHEN YOU PERFORMED THAT EXTERNAL EXAMINATION INITIALLY, DOES IT PROCEED IN A PARTICULAR FASHION? >> HEAD TO TOE. >> HEAD TO TOE? FRONT OR BACK FIRST? >> FRONT, THEN BACK. >> SAME THING, HEAD TO TOE FRONT TO BACK? >> YES. >> AND IN PERFORMING THAT EXTERNAL EXAMINATION, WHAT OBSERVATIONS DID YOU MAKE ON THE FRONT PORTION OF THE BODY OF RACHEL ENTWISTLE? >> THAT THERE WAS A GUNSHOT WOUND TO THE LEFT BREAST. >> AND WHEN YOU FIRST NOTED THAT, CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT IT APPEARED TO BE? OR HOW IT APPEARED TO YOU? >> THAT IT WAS A TYPICAL GUNSHOT WOUND. IT WAS LOCATED -- EXCUSE ME. IT WAS 14 INCHES TO THE -- BELOW THE TOP OF THE HEAD. IT WAS FOUR INCHES TO THE LEFT OF THE MIDLINE. IT WAS ON THE OUTER QUAD RABBIT OF THE BREAST. IT WAS IRREGULAR IN SHAPE. ONE DIMENSION WAS ONE QUARTER INCH. IT HAD A -- ABRASION ON THE MEDIAL EDGE OF ONE EIGHTH INCH APPROXIMATELY. >> I'M SORRY, SIR. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT HAD AN ABRASION? >> IT HAD A RIM OF MARGINAL ABRASION ON THE MEDIAL SURFACE THAT WAS ONE-EIGHTH INCH. THEN A ABRASION WIDENED TO ONE-HALF INCH ON THE LATERAL EDGE. AND NEXT TO IT ON THE MEDIAL -- MEDIAL TO THE GUNSHOT WOUND THERE WAS A RECTANGULAR CONFUSION, ABRASION. >> LET ME STOP YOU THERE, SIR, AND ASK YOU SOME OF THE TERMS THAT YOU JUST USED. YOU USED THE WORD MIDLINE. TO WHAT DOES THAT REFER? >> WHEN I -- WHEN I COMMENT ABOUT POSITION OF A WOUND, I'M DESCRIBING THE POSITION OF THE WOUND ESSENTIALLY WITH THE BODY STRAIGHT UP, ARMS -- PALMS AND THE HANDS FACING FORWARD. AND I'M MEASURING FROM THE TOP OF THE HEAD. AND ALSO FROM THE MIDLINE -- DOWN THE MIDLINE OF THE BODY. YOU KNOW, WHERE THE BELLY BUTTON IS. >> SO A LINE THAT GOES STRAIGHT FROM YOUR NOSE STRAIGHT DOWN ACROSS THE BREASTBONE? >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> YOU USE THE WORD ATYPICAL. TO WHAT DID YOU REFER THERE? >> THAT THE SHAPE WASN'T EXACTLY ROUND. >> NOW, WHEN YOU FIRST OBSERVED THAT -- THAT SHAPE ON THE UPPER PORTION OF THE LEFT BREAST OF RACHEL ENTWISTLE, WAS IT IMMEDIATELY APPARENT THAT IT WAS A GUNSHOT WOUND OR DID YOU -- DID IT APPEAR TO BE ANOTHER TYPE OF WOUND? HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE IT WHEN YOU SAW IT? >> WELL, I COULDN'T SAY WHETHER IT WAS A SHARP FORCE INJURY OR A FIRE INJURY UNTIL IT WAS WASHED AND I WAS ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, MANIPULATE THE SKIN AROUND THE WOUND TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT WAS A STAB WOUND OR A GUNSHOT WOUND. THERE HAD BEEN AN X-RAY, OBVIOUSLY, PRIOR TO THE -- EXCUSE ME. NOT OBVIOUSLY. X-RAYS WERE PERFORMED PRIOR TO THE EXAMINATION AND THERE WAS A -- THERE WAS A PROJECTILE ON X-RAY. >> A FOREIGN BODY IN THE X-RAY. >> IN THE CHEST. YES. >> AND YOU USED THE TERM MEDIAL ABRASION. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> WHEN A BULLET ENTERS THE SKIN, IT PUNCHES OUT THE SKIN. AND AS IT ENTERS, IT SCRAPES THE SIDES OF THE SKIN. CAUSING THE -- A RIM OF ABRASION. IF THE BULLET GOES IN PERFECTLY STRAIGHT ON TO THE SKIN, THE ABRASION IS CONSENTIC. IT'S APPROXIMATELY EQUAL ALL AROUND. ABRASIONS DO WIDEN. DEPENDING ON TRAJECTORY. ALSO IF A BULLET IS TUMBLING. IT CAN GO IN IN SUCH A FASHION THAT IT LEAVES AN OVAL OR AN OBLONG SHAPE OR RECTANGULAR SHAPE AS IT ENTERS THE BODY. >> SO SOMEWHAT IRREGULAR? >> YES. >> AND HOW DID THIS PARTICULAR PENETRATING WOUND OR WOUND AS YOU'VE DESCRIBED IT APPEAR? >> IT APPEARED -- EXCUSE ME. IT APPEARED NOT ROUND. IT WAS OVAL. IT WAS HARD TO DETERMINE THE LATERAL MEDIAL DIAMETER. IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM AS THOUGH -- IT SEEMED AS THOUGH IT HAD GONE IN AT AN ANGLE OR WAS TUMBLING AND TUMBLING BECAUSE IT HAD GONE INTO AN OBJECT PRIOR TO IMPACTING THE SKIN. >> NOW, SIR, DID YOU EXAMINE THAT WOUND MORE CLOSELY? >> YES. >> TELL US WHAT YOU FOUND. >> AGAIN, WHAT I SAW EXTERNALLY. BUT THERE WAS NO SORT OF POWDER ON THE WOUND. IN FACT, THERE WAS MARGINAL ABRASION THAT WAS ECCENTRIC. THE SHAPE WAS ECCENTRIC IN THAT THE PATH OF THE WOUND WAS EXAMINED. INCISIONS WERE MADE. A SMALL CALIBER BULLET WAS RECOVERED FROM THE BASE OF THE BREAST. >> DESCRIBE, IF YOU COULD, THE PATH OF THE WOUND. >> WITH THE BODY STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN AND THE BREASTS SUPPORTED, IT ESSENTIALLY WENT THROUGH THE ADULT FEMALE FRONT TO BACK. >> AND THROUGH WHAT PORTION OR PORTIONS OF THE BODY DID IT PASS? >> THE SKIN AND FAT OR SOFT TISSUE OF THE BREAST. >> DID YOU MEASURE ITS DEPTH? >> NO, I DID NOT. >> DID YOU APPROXIMATE ITS DEPTH? >> THE -- IT WAS INCHES. IT WAS FIVE OR SIX INCHES. >> DID YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IT PENETRATED THE CHEST WALL? >> YES, I DID. >> AND DID IT OR DID IT NOT? >> NO, IT DID NOT. >> AND WHAT ABOUT THE -- >>> WELCOME BACK. WE ARE LIVE IN A WOBURN, MASSACHUSETTS, COURTROOM. ON THE STAND, DR. WILLIAM ZANE, THE MEDICAL EXAMINER. THIS TESTIMONY IS NOT FOR THE FEINT OF HEART. HE'S EXPLAINING HIS AUTOPSY OF RACHEL ENTWISTLE. LET'S LISTEN. >> REFLECTED FORWARD AND POSTER YOR. AND AT THAT TIME I STOPPED TO DOCUMENT ANOTHER WOUND. >> DESCRIBE THAT WOUND THAT YOU STOPPED TO DOCUMENT. WHAT IT WAS, WHERE IT WAS LOCATED. >> THAT THERE WAS -- RIGHT AT THE FRONT OF THE SKULL, RIGHT AT THE TOP, THERE WAS A ROUND DEFECT WITH SOME HEMORRHAGE ON THE SURFACE OF THE SKULL. >> AND WHERE WAS THAT IN RELATION TO THE TOP OF THE HEAD? >> THE HEMORRHAGE WAS SURROUNDING THE DEFECT, AND IN THE SKULL THE DEFECT WOULD YOU DESCRIBE RIGHT AT THE FRONT TOP OF THE HEAD. FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE COURT, I'M GOING TO POINT TO THE TOP OF MY HEAD IN THE APPROXIMATE AREA. >> SO FOR THE RECORD, THE CENTER TOP. AND WHERE IN RELATION. WAS IT FORWARD? BACKWARD? >> NO. IT WAS FORWARD. >> APPROXIMATELY HOW FAR FORWARD FROM THE TOP OF THE HEAD? >> IT WAS AN INCH BELOW THE TOP OF THE HEAD. >> AND THE SIZE OF THE AREA THAT YOU OBSERVED? >> IT WAS -- THE DEFECT IN THE SKULL WASN'T EXACTLY MEASURED. APPROXIMATELY IT WAS A QUARTER OF AN INCH. >> WHEN YOU SAY A DEFECT IN THE SKULL, WHAT DO YOU MIEN? >> IT WAS A ROUND, PUNCHED OUT DEFECT. >> WHEN YOU MADE THAT OBSERVATION WHAT DID IT APPEAR TO BE BASED ON YOUR TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE? >> A GUNSHOT WOUND. >> SO WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE SCALP THAT YOU HAD REFLECTED AND BROUGHT FORWARD? >> WELL, THE -- IT WAS EVIDENT THAT THERE WAS A GUNSHOT WOUND IN THE SCALP AND IT JUST DID NOT APPEAR INITIALLY. SO THE SCALP WAS REFLECTED BACK AND THE SKAS P WAS SHAVED. >> WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DID YOU FIND WHEN YOU SHAVED THE SCALP? >> IT WAS A ROUND, ONE-EIGHTH INCH DEFECT WHICH WAS A GUNSHOT WOUND. IT WAS RITE IN THE MIDDLE. >> AND WHAT PORTION OF THE SCALP DID YOU HAVE TO SHAVE TO OBSERVE THAT? >> THE ANTERIOR -- THE HAIRLINE. THE ANTERIOR HAIRLINE. >> HOW FAR UP DID YOU SHAVE? >> ABOUT AN INCH OR TWO. FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE COURT, I'M POINTING ON MY HEAD. THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION WHERE THIS DEFECT WAS. >> AGAIN, ABOUT AN INCH FROM THE TOP OF HER HEAD? >> IT WAS AN INCH FROM THE TOP OF THE HEAD, AND IT WAS -- IT WAS -- IT WAS APPROXIMATELY -- I DIDN'T MEASURE THE DISTANCE FROM THE PLANE OF THE FOREHEAD BUT IT WAS RIGHT AT THE HAIRLINE, ANTERIOR HAIRLINE. >> HOW FAR FROM THE HAIRLINE BACK TOWARD THE TOP? >> A HALF INCH. >> WAS THAT AREA PHOTOGRAPHED AND DOCUMENTED? >> YES. >> AND DESCRIBE THAT PARTICULAR WOUND THAT YOU SAW THERE. >> I DESCRIBED IT AS A ROUND, ONE-EIGHTH INCH MARGINAL ABRASION. THE ABRASION BEING APPROXIMATELY AN EIGHTH OF AN INCH. EXCUSE ME. A SIXTEENTH OF AN INCH. THAT THERE WAS -- THERE WAS NO SORT OF POWDER ON THE WOUND. >> WHAT ABOUT THE FACE ITSELF? WERE YOU ABLE TO OBSERVE THE FACE LOOKING FOR SOOT OR POWDER? >> YES. >> AND DID YOU FIND ANY? >> NO. >> AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE TERM STIPLING? >> YES. >> WHAT IS STIPLING? >> IT'S THE UNBURNED GUN POWDER. WHEN A -- WHEN THE GUN IS DISCHARGED, NOT ALL THE GUN POWDER IS -- IS BURNED IN THE EXPLOSION. SO IT LEAVES THE GUN BARREL PARTIALLY BURNED. AND IT HAS SOME MASS. AND INSTEAD OF JUST RESTING ON THE TOP OF THE SKIN WHERE IT'S DEPOSITED, IT ACTUALLY BECOMES TA TOOED INTO THE SKIN. >> TA TOOING IS ANOTHER WORD FOR STIPLING? >> YES. >> DID YOU NOTE ANY OF THAT ON THE FACE OF RACHEL ENTWISTLE? >> NO. >> WHAT ABOUT ON OR AROUND THAT WOUND THAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED? >> NO. >> AND BASED ON YOUR TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE, SIR, DO YOU KNOW GENERALLY THE APPROXIMATE RANGE OUTSIDE OF WHICH NO STIPLING WOULD BE DEPOSITED? >> IT'S -- IT'S REALLY DETERMINED -- IT'S REALLY THE WEAPON THAT'S USED. EACH WEAPON HAS ITS OWN FEATURES. IT'S APPROXIMATELY INCHES. SOME AUTHORS SAY FIVE IMPLGS, FOUR INCHES. OTHERS SAY SIX INCHES OR MORE. >> BASED ON YOUR EXAMINATION OF THAT WOUND, WERE YOU ABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS A CONTACT OR NONCONTACT WOUND? >> IT WAS A NONCONTACT WOUND. >> WHAT DID YOU DO NEXT AFTER REFLECTING BACK THE SCALP, MAKING THOSE OBSERVATIONS? DID YOU CONTINUE ON WITH THE AUTOPSY PROCEDURE? >> YES. >> WHAT DID YOU DO NEXT? >> THE INTERNAL EXAMINATION OF THE HEAD, CHEST AND ABDOMEN WAS PERFORMED. >> LET'S START WITH THE INTERNAL EXAMINATION OF THE HEAD. TELL US WHAT YOU DID AND WHAT, IF ANYTHING, YOU FOUND. >> AFTER THE SCALP WAS RE-REFLECTED, THE SKULL CAP WAS TAKEN OFF AND THE BRAIN WAS REMOVED. THERE WAS A DEFECT -- THERE WERE DEFECTS IN THE BRAIN. AND THERE WAS -- THERE WAS PROJECTILE MATERIAL OR A BROKEN APART BULLET IN THE BRAIN ITSELF. AND IT WAS DOCUMENTED, DIAGRAMMED, AND PHOTOGRAPHED. >> AND DESCRIBE, IF YOU COULD, THE PATH OR THE DIRECTION OF THE WOUND. >> THAT -- THE DIRECTION WITHIN THE BODY? >> WITHIN THE HEAD, YES. >> WITHIN THE BODY, THE HEAD, WAS -- IT WAS -- >> AGAIN, IN REFERENCE TO STANDING ERECT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. IT WAS DOWNWARD AND FRONT TO BACK. >> AND DID IT END AT A PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE INSIDE OF THE HEAD? >> YES. IT ENDED -- THERE WERE TWO FRAGMENTS THAT WERE RECOVERED RIGHT IN THE BASE OF THE FRONTAL LOBES BETWEEN THE TWO FRONTAL LOBES. IT SEEMED TO GO BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. AND IT -- IT WAS PRETTY MUCH IN MIDLINE. THE PROJECTILES WERE EITHER REMOVED -- THE PROJECTILE WAS REMOVED FROM THE BRAIN ITSELF RIGHT AT THE EDGE WHERE IT TOUCHES THE SKULL. >>> IT SEEMS TO ME THIS KILLER WAS VERY PRECISE. JUST TWO SHOTS FIRED. BOTH LETHAL. KILLING TWO PEOPLE. WILLIAM KIMHAM WE LEARNED IT WAS A NONCONTACT WOUND ON RACHEL ENTWISTLE. SHE WAS SHOT AT THE HAIRLINE IN THE CENTER. ONE SHOT, FRONT TO BACK ON A DIAGNOSE YAGAL GOING DOWN. WE ALREADY KNEW BABY LILLIAN WAS KILLED BY A SHOT TO THE CHEST. THAT WAS A CONTACT SHOT. THIS WAS A KILLER WHO WAS VERY PRECISE. WHAT DOES THAT TELL US? >> NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. THIS IS A KILLING THAT WAS THOUGHT OUT BEFOREHAND. IT WAS PREMEDITATED. THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS THOUGHT ABOUT. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PLANNED AND EXECUTED VERY CAREFULLY. AND THAT GOES TO THE UNLIKELYHOOD THAT SOMEONE JUST ENTERED THIS HOUSE ON THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT FOR A ROBBERY, FOR A SEX CRIME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND A STRUGGLE OCCURRED AND THAT AN UNPREMEDITATED KILLING RESULTED. THAT GOES AGAINST THAT KIND OF THEORY. >> YEAH. >> THIS SUPPORTS THE IDEA THAT THE DEFENDANT IN THIS CASE PLANNED ABOUT IT, PREMEDITATED IT, CARRIED IT OUT VERY CALCULATEDLY. >> ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE ONLY SEMEN FOUND ON RACHEL WAS THAT OF NEIL ENTWISTLE. THERE'S NO SIGN OF ANY KIND OF A SEX CRIME AND NO SIGNS OF BURGLARLY. >> THERE'S NO SIGN OF ANY TYPE OF SEX CRIME OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE AT ALL. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE IN WOBURN, MASS, "TODAY." >> HAPPY TO BE HERE. GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> SEE YOU SOON AND WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE LIVE TRIAL COVERAGE FROM MASSACHUSETTS. STAY WITH US. >>> TWO SEARCHES DONE ON NEIL ENTWISTLE'S COMPUTER HELPED THE PROSECUTION. THAT'S TODAY'S 13th JUROR QUESTION. LOGON TO CNN.COM/CRIME AND CLICK ON 13th JUROR TO VOTE. SO FAR 96% OF YOU ARE VOTING YES. 4% OF YOU ARE SAYING NO. WE'LL BE UPDATING THOSE 13th JUROR RESULTS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE SEEN A 96% ON THE 13th JUROR QUESTION IN A VERY LONG TIME. THAT COMPUTER EVIDENCE I THINK IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE DEFENSE TO GET AROUND. ALTHOUGH THEY DID SCORE ONE POINT ON CROSS-EXAMINATION. LET'S GO BACK INTO THE COURTROOM NOW. BECAUSE ANOTHER TYPE OF FORENSIC EXPERT IS ON THE STAND NOW. THAT'S THE MEDICAL EXAMINER, DR. WILLIAM ZANE. I GOT TO WARN YOU, THIS TESTIMONY IS NOT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE FAITH OF HEART. PROBABLY NOT APPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN. BECAUSE HE'S DESCRIBING THE INJURIES TO RACHEL ENTWISTLE. LET'S TAKE A LOOK. >> -- THE POINTER TO SHOW US -- OKAY. AND FOR THE RECORD YOU PLACED THE POINTER UNDER YOUR ARM. >> YES. >> POINTED IT IN A FRONT TO BACK DIRECTION? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> USING THAT SAME BLACK MARKER, IF YOU COULD FIRST ON THE UPPER-LEFT PORTION OF THAT DIAGRAM THERE ARE FOUR IMAGES ON THERE, FOR THE RECORD. SO THE ONE CLOSEST TO YOU ON THE TOP, PUT AN X AND A CIRCLE THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION THAT YOU HAD OBSERVED THE WOUND TO THE HEAD. A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN THAT, SIR. >> I CIRCLED THE FOREHEAD, THE AREA WHERE THE WOUND WAS APPROXIMATELY. I'M ALSO MAKING A LINE ACROSS TO DEMONSTRATE THE APPROXIMATE AREA OF THE HAIRLINE. >> THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION, SIR. NOW, IF YOU COULD MOVE TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT DIAGRAM, AGAIN, USING THE TOP -- TOP PORTION. OR IF YOU WANTED TO USE THE ONE RIGHT BELOW THAT, WHATEVER YOU PREFER. DIAGRAM THE PATH OF THAT HEAD WOUND STARTING AT THE LOCATION ON THE SKULL WHERE YOU NOTICED IT. AGAIN, USING AN X AND A CIRCLE. AND AT THE POINT THAT IT ENDED AND YOU RECOVERED THE FRAGMENTS, PUT A Y AND A CIRCLE. AND IF YOU COULD CONNECT THOSE TWO AND PUT AN ARROW IN THE DIRECTI DIRECTION. AND, FOR THE RECORD, WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DID YOU FIND AT THE AREA NOTED AS THE Y? WITH THE CIRCLE? I'M SORRY. YOU'VE GOT TO SPEAK LOUDLY WHEN YOU'RE UP THERE, SIR. >> THE TWO LEAD FRAGMENTS. >> YOU CAN RESUME THE STAND. >> SIDE BAR, YOUR HONOR? >> YES. >>> BOY. TOUGH TESTIMONY, I THINK, FOR THIS JURY TO HEAR ABOUT THE SHOOTING OF RACHEL AND LILLIAN ENTWISTLE. LET'S GO TO OUR GUEST DARREN GELBER WHO'S BEEN WATCHING THIS TRIAL WITH US THIS MORNING HERE IN STUDIO. AS THE JURY WATCHES THIS, THEY SURELY HAVE TO BE THINKING ABOUT THE PRECISION THAT THIS KILLER USED. ONE SHOT KILLING RACHEL ENTWISTLE, ONE SHOT KILLING THE BABY, LILLIAN ENTWISTLE. DO YOU AGREE THIS MAKES IT A LOT LESS LIKELY THIS WAS AN INTRUDER? >> VERY MUCH SO. WE KNOW THE POSITION OF THE BODIES WHEN THEY WERE EVENTUALLY LOCATED WAS IN THE BED. AND THE FACT THAT -- THE WAY THE BULLETS HAVE ENTERED THE BODIES WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY WERE NOT -- THEY WERE EITHER ASLEEP OR NOT STARTLED OR NOT ALARMED AT THE PRESENCE OF SOMEBODY IN THE HOUSE. THAT ALL POINTS TOWARDS SOMEBODY KNOWN TO THEM AND, OF COURSE, POINTS TO JOHN ENTWISTLE. JOHN ENTWISTLE. I'M SORRY. >> DARREN, THIS IS AN EXECUTION STYLE KILLING. DOES THE DEFENSE NEED TO RAISE SOME KIND OF SUGGESTION THAT SOMEBODY ELSE HAD IT IN FOR THEM? >> THEY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEIR TAKE ON ALL OF THIS IS. WE SEE HINTS OF IT HERE AND THERE. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HEARD SOME CROSS-EXAMINATION OF THE COMPUTER EXPERT ABOUT WHETHER THE LAPTOP WAS FINGERPRINTED. WHICH WAS AN INTERESTING LINE OF QUESTIONING. POSSIBLY SUGGESTING THAT SOMEBODY ELSE HAD ACCESS TO THAT LAPTOP. WE ALSO SEE HINTS OF IT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE QUESTIONING ABOUT OTHER -- ABOUT THE TRAVEL SITE VISITS. WHETHER HE'S PLANNING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO COME TO BOSTON FROM ENGLAND. SO THAT RAISES THE SPECK KL, THEN WHO WAS SEARCHING FOR THESE ONE-WAY TICKETS OUT OF BOSTON AFTER THE KILLINGS? WE'RE SEEING LITTLE HINTS AND LITTLE PIECES BUT NOTHING REAL SUBSTANTIVE YET TO POINT TO ANYBODY OTHER THAN THE DEFENDANT. >> YEAH. AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE SEARCHES THAT WERE DONE OR THE COMPUTER ACTIVITY THAT WAS DONE ON JANUARY 20th. THAT'S THE DAY OF THESE MURDERS. AND NEIL ENTWISTLE SAYS THAT HE FOUND THE BODIES AT ABOUT 11:00 A.M. ON THAT DAY. WE KNOW THAT THE COMPUTER WAS USED AFTER 11:00 A.M. AT APPROXIMATELY 12:30. SO ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF LATER. IT WAS A LITTLE UNCLEAR FROM THE TESTIMONY AND THE OBJECTIONS ON THE SIDE BAR EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON. BUT IT DOES APPEAR THAT THE JURY HEARD THAT SOMEBODY WAS ON THAT COMPUTER UNDER NEIL ENTWISTLE'S USER NAME AND PASSWORD ACCESSING E-MAIL. AND ON CROSS-EXAMINATION IT APPEARED AS THOUGH THOSE E-MAILS THAT WERE BEING CHECKED WERE BEING CHECKED FOR JOB SEARCHES, NOT NECESSARILY FOR ESCORTS OR FOR THE SEX SITES. I JUST WANT TO CLEAR THAT UP. ROBIN BOND, LET ME BRING YOU BACK IN. I CAN'T SEE NEIL ENTWISTLE GOING ONLINE AND DOING ANYTHING AN HOUR AND A HALF AFTER THE KILLINGS. >> RIGHT. >> WHEN HIS FIRST PRIORITY SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO CALL THE POLICE AND HE NEVER DID THAT. >> YEAH. YOU CAN'T IMAGINE HOW HORRIFYING THAT WOULD BE TO FIND OUR WIFE AND YOUR BABY DAUGHTER DEAD AND THEN NOT CALL ANYBODY. OR BE DRIVING AROUND TRYING TO FIND YOUR MOTHER-IN-LAW. IT JUST DOESN'T ADD UP TO THE -- THE AVERAGE PERSON. SO AS A FORMER PROSECUTOR, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SIT HERE AND I WOULD SAY, I WANT TO TELL THIS STORY. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO LOOK AT HOW THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE ADDS UP AND I WANT TO PUT THAT EVIDENCE FORWARD IN THE LIGHT MOST FAVORABLE TO MY CASE. THEN I WANT TO TELL THE STORY. AND I WANT TO TELL THE STORY IN A REAL SIMPLE WAY THAT SAYS THE WHY AND HOW. WHY WOULD HE DO THIS AND HOW. IT DOESN'T JUST MAKE ANY SENSE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT HIS BEHAVIOR JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO THE AVERAGE PERSON. >> THAT'S FOR SURE. THAT'S FOR SURE. PROBABLY AN UNDERSTATEMENT. IT'S THE KIND OF BEHAVIOR THAT ENRAGES A LOT OF PEOPLE. THE ATTORNEYS ARE AT A SIDE BAR RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE NOT MISSING ANY LIVE TESTIMONY. DARREN GELBER, THE DEFENSE HAS TO BE, I THINK, THAT NEIL ENTWISTLE PANICKED. HE WAS IN SUCH A STATE OF SHOCK WHEN HE CAME HOME, AS HE SAYS, FOUND HIS WIFE AND BUYBY SHOT HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING. HE COULD NOT THINK STRAIGHT. MAYBE HE WENT ONLINE AND CHECKED HIS E-MAIL AS SOME KIND OF REACHING OUT FOR SOMETHING FRTABLE AND FAMILIAR. MAYBE HE'S A COME PUSSIVE E-MAIL CHECKER AS I AM. HARD TO THINK I WOULD DO IT IN THAT SITUATION BUT HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING. THEN HE DROVE AROUND, WEPT TO THE AIRPORT, LEFT THE AIRPORT, WENT BACK TO THE AIRPORT. HE WAS IN SUCH A STATE OF SHOCK HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING. IS THAT AN ARGUMENT THAT COULD WORK? >> CAN IT WORK? I DON'T KNOW. IT'S CERTAINLY AN ARGUMENT THAT MAY, AT LEAST, HELP EXPLAIN SOME OF HIS CONDUCT. IF I WERE GOING TO PURSUE THAT TYPE OF DEFENSE, I WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO CALL A PSYCHIATRIST OR PSYCHOLOGIST TO TALK ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER AFTER HAVING OBSERVED SOMETHING AS HORRIFIC AS WHAT HE OBSERVED. THAT MIGHT HELP EXPLAIN WHY HE WOULD REACT IN THE WAY HE DID. I WOULDN'T WANT TO REST THAT SORT OF DEFENSE JUST BASED ON AN ARGUMENT TO THE JURY OR BASED ON THE TESTIMONY OF THE DEFENDANT. I WOULD HOPE TO HAVE SOME OBJECT OF PROOF OF ZBLIT MAYBE THAT'S COMING. ROBIN BOND, IF, INDEED, SOMEBODY ELSE IS THE MURDER HERE, NEIL ENTWISTLE HAS TO BE THE UNLUCKIEST GUY IN THE WORLD. SOMEBODY GOT ON TO HIS COMPUTER USING HIS USER NAME AND PASSWORD IN THE DAYS BEFORE THE MURDERS AND RESEARCHED HOW TO KILL WITH A KNIFE. THEN SOMEBODY SNUCK INTO HIS HOME WHEN HE WAS OUT, E FK SHATED THE KILLING. WHEN HE CAME HOME AND FOUND THEM HE JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE PANICKED AND HE DIDN'T CALL THE POLICE. THIS OTHER SOMEBODY RETURNED THE GUN TO THE MATTERAZZO HOME. AND THEN MAYBE HUNG OUT IN THE HOME. AND, AGAIN, USED HIS COMPUTER. SOMEHOW CAUSED HIM TO FLEE TO ENGLAND AND MAKE A LOT OF INCONSISTENT STATEMENTS. THIS IS QUITE AN UNLUCKY GUY. >> WHAT ARE THE ODDS, RIGHT? IT JUST DOESN'T ADD UP. IT DOESN'T ADD UP AT ALL. WHAT'S REALLY INFLAMMATORY IS IF YOU READ WHAT HIS POSTING IS, YOU KNOW, HE WANTS TO FIND OUT IF AMERICAN CHICKS ARE HOTTER AND HE'S MARRIED TO AN AMERICAN CHICK. >> THAT'S TRUE. ISN'T THAT SAD? >> YOU SIT THERE AND THINK, OH, MY GOSH, THIS JUST DOESN'T ADD UP. THE SLEAZE FACTOR IS PRETTY BAD HERE. >> THAT'S TRUE. IT IS SO SAD WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE WAS MARRIED, HAD A NEW BABY AND HIS WIFE SEEMED SO HAPPY IN THOSE PICTURES AND HE'S LOOKING FOR BLOND HOT AMERICAN BABES. IS THERE AN INNOCENT EXPLANATION FOR THE COMPUTER SEARCHES LIKE HOW TO KILL WITH A KNIFE AND ADULT FRIEND FINDER? WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL HEAR WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY ABOUT THAT AS WE REVEAL OUR ANSWER TO OUR QUESTION OF THE DAY. STAY WITH US. >>> FRIENDS SAY HE WAS A LOVING HUSBAND. DID NEIL ENTWISTLE HAVE A SECRET SEX LIFE. THE JURY HAS CYBER EVIDENCE TO CONSIDER. MORE LIVE TRIAL COVERAGE AHEAD. >>> WE ASKED YOU TODAY IN OUR QUESTION OF THE DAY, IS THERE AN INNOCENT EXPLANATION FOR THE COMPUTER SEARCHES FOUND IN THE ENTWISTLE INVESTIGATION? OUR ANSWER COMES FROM MARIE IN TOE LOW DOE, OHIO. SHE WRITES, THE ONLY INNOCENT EXPLANATION THAT THE DEFENDANT WAS WATCHING truTV, HEARD THAT THE ACCUSED LOOKED UP A WEBSITE CALLED HOW TO MURDER YOUR WIFE.COM AND WENT TO SEE IF SUCH A WEBSITE EXISTED. AS I DID. WHEN THAT MAN WHO MURDERED HIS WIFE IN WISCONSIN DID THE SAME STUPID THING. THANKS FOR THAT ANSWER, MARIE. THANKS FOR WATCHING. I GUESS THE MAN YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS MARK JENSEN, NOW A CONVICTED MURDER. NEIL ENTWISTLE NOW ON TRIAL FOR KILLING HIS WIFE AND BUYBY. LET'S GO BACK IN LIVE. ON THE STAND IS DR. WILLIAM ZANE. HE IS THE MEDICAL EXAMINER. HE'S TESTIFYING AS TO THE AUTOPSY HE PERFORMED ON RACHEL ENTWISTLE. LET'S LISTEN. LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A BRIEF BREAK IN THE PROCEEDINGS. ROBIN BOND, HOW IMPORTANT IS THIS MEDICAL TESTIMONY? BECAUSE IT'S UNDISPUTED THAT BOTH VICTIMS WERE KILLED BY SINGLE GUNSHOT WOUNDS. >> I THINK IT'S ALWAYS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU PROVE, YOU KNOW, HOW SOMEONE DIED. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS WE ALL KNOW, THE DEFENSE COULD COME IN THERE AND SAY, WELL, WAS SHE POI SONNED IN SOME OTHER WAY, DID CHEF SOME NATURAL DEATH. >> RIGHT. >> AND YOU ALWAYS NEED TO PROVE A KAU SAL CONNECTION OR THAT THE DEFENDANT ACTUALLY DID MITT THE CRIME AND THAT THE ACT OF THE DEFENDANT WAS TRULY THE CONNECTION THAT CAUSED THE DEATH. >> YOU ARE SO RIGHT, ROBIN. THE ATTORNEYS ARE GOING TO SIDE BAR, AS YOU CAN SEE. YOU ARE SO RIGHT. WE'VE HAD CASES WHERE SOMEBODY WAS SHOT OR PUNCHED AND FELL. AND DIED SHORTLY THEREAFTER. AND THE DEFENSE SAYS, NO, THEY JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK RIGHT AT THAT MOMENT. THATHS ACTUALLY ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOUNDED IN COURTROOMS. YOU ARE SO RIGHT. ROBIN, WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE COMPUTER SEARCH THAT WAS DONE, PRESUMABLY BY NEIL ENTWISTLE, WAS DONE HOW TO KILL WITH A KNIFE AND THESE VICTIMS WERE KILLED BY A GUN? >> BECAUSE PART OF HIS STORY, PART OF HIS ALIBI IS, WELL, GEE, I WAS SO OVERCOME WITH GRIEF WHEN I SAW MY DEAD WIFE AND BAY BEE THAT I WANTED TO KILL MYSELF. AND THE WAY I WANTED TO GO ABOUT KILLING MYSELF WAS KILLING MYSELF WITH A KNIFE. THAT WAS HOW HE -- THAT WAS HIS STORY. >> THAT'S A GREAT ARGUMENT, ROBIN, EXCEPT THE HOW TO KILL WITH A KNIFE WAS DONE ON JANUARY 18th, TWO DAYS BEFORE THE KILLING. >> ISN'T THAT THE WEIRDEST THING? >> YEAH. >> IT'S ALMOST LIKE, WHAT WAS HE THINKING. I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS THAT'S SORT OF A CHING IN THE ARMOR, I THINK. >> TO PUT IT MILDLY. DARREN GELBER, DOES THE DEFENSE GET ANY MILEAGE OUT OF THE FACT THAT HOW TO KILL WITH A KNIFE IS DIFFERENT THAN THE MANNER OF DEATH WHICH WAS GUNSHOT WOUNDS TO BOTH VICTIMS. >> MAYBE REVERSE MILEAGE. IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S EXPLORING DIFFERENT WAYS TO KILL HIS WIFE. AND HE'S THINKING ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND, WHICH IS NOT A GOOD THING. LISA, ONE OF THE THINGS I OBSERVED WHEN LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THE PRETRIAL FILINGS IS THAT THERE'S SOME EVIDENCE THAT ENTWISTLE, IN AN EFFORT TO EARN SOME MONEY WAS USING SOME INTERNET BUSINESSES. AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE INTERNET BUSINESSES WAS GIVING ADVICE TO MEN ABOUT HOW TO ENLARGE THEIR GENITALS. >> UH-HUH. >> AND I'M WONDERING WHETHER AS PART OF THIS DEFENSE WE'LL SEE ANY ATTEMPT TO CONNECT THAT TO HIS VISITS TO THESE ESCORT SERVICE SITES OR THIS ADULT FRIEND FINDER SITE. >> IT WAS A BUSINESS. >> WHAT BETTER PLACE TO ADVERTISE THAT BUSINESS THAN ON THOSE TYPES OF SITES? >> EXCEPT THE ADULT FRIEND FINDER IS ABOUT HOOKING UP WITH OTHER PEOPLE FOR SEX. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> HE WASN'T TALKING TO THE OWNERS OF THE WEBSITE TRYING TO GET AN AD ON THE WEBSITE. HE WAS TRYING TO HOOK UP WITH WOMEN FOR SEX. >> MAYBE A GOOD PLACE TO MONITOR THE TRAFFIC, MONITOR THE CONVERSATIONS THAT GO ON ON THAT WEBSITE. I'M JUST REACHING LISA. >> YOU ARE GOOD. >> I'M TRYING TO THINK OF ANYTHING. >> YOU ARE GOOD, DARREN GELBER. YOU ARE GOOD. I HAVE ONE POSSIBLE EXPLANATION FOR THE HOW TO KILL WITH A KNIFE AND GUNSHOT DISCREPANCY. HE'S BRITISH. HE COMES FROM ENGLAND WHERE THERE'S VERY STRICT GUN CONTROL LAWS. GUNS ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN IN ENGLAND. IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THE U.S. HIS FIRST THOUGHT MAY HAVE BEEN I'M GOING TO HAVE TO KILL THEM WITH A KNIFE. HE LOOKS IT UP AND SEES HOW PERSONAL AND BRUTAL AND BLOODY IT IS. THEN THEN REALIZES, WAIT A SECOND, MY IN-LAW HAS A GUN COLLECTION. I'VE BEEN SHOOTING WITH HIM. I THINK I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS BY GUN. AFTER DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH AND THINKING HE MAY HAVE DECIDED TO DO IT BY GUN. THE MEDICAL EXAMINER IS STILL ON THE STAGE. OR ON THE STAND, RATHER. THAT SIDE BAR HAS JUST BROKEN UP. LET'S LISTEN IN LIVE. >> WHETHER OR NOT IN ANY WAY THAT CONTRIBUTED TO HER CAUSE OF DEATH? >> NO, IT DID NOT. >> AND WHAT IS YOUR REASON FOR DETERMINING THAT IT DID NOT? >> IT DID NOT CAUSE ANY DAMAGE TO ANY VITAL ORGANS. >> SIR, DID YOU PERFORM A SECOND AUTOPSY -- EXCUSE ME. THAT DAY, JANUARY 24th, 2006? >> YES. >> UPON WHOM DID YOU PERFORM THAT AUTOPSY? >> ON A FEMALE INFANT, LILLIAN ENTWISTLE. >> AND DID YOUR AUTOPSY GENERALLY PROCEED IN THE SAME MANNER AS YOU'VE DESCRIBED THE ONE WITH THE ADULT FEMALE, RACHEL ENTWISTLE? >> THAT'S RIGHT, YES. >> DID IT BEGIN WITH AN EXTERNAL EXAMINATION OF THE BODY OF LILLIAN ENTWISTLE? >> YES. >> AND AT THE OUT SET DID YOU MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO THE HEIGHT AND WEIGHT OF LILLIAN ENTWISTLE? >> 28 INCHES IN HEIGHT AND 21 1/2 POUNDS IN WEIGHT. >> DID YOUR EXTERNAL EXAMINATION PROCEED IN THE MANNER THAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED BEFORE, HEAD TO TOE? >> YES. >> DESCRIBE, IF YOU COULD, YOUR OBSERVATIONS ON THE HEAD AND NECK AREA FIRST. >> THE -- THE INFANT'S HEAD AND NECK WAS NORMALLY FORMED. THERE WAS NO TRAUMA. THERE WAS DARKENING OF THE SKIN CONSISTENT WITH EARLY DECOMPOSITION. THAT THERE WERE TWO SMALL -- THERE WERE TWO INCISORS IN THE LOWER JAW. AGAIN, THERE WAS NOTHING OF TRAUMATIC SIGNIFICANCE TO THE HEAD. MOVING TO THE EXTREMITIES, THE ARMS AND LEGS, AGAIN, ON THE FRONT PORTION, DID YOU EXAMINE THOSE AREAS? >> YES. >> WHAT, IF ANYTHING, DID YOU FIND OR NOTE. >> THERE WAS NO RI GOR, STIFFENING OF THE MUSCLES. THEY WERE NORMALLY FORMED AND SYMMETRICAL. >> DID YOU NOTICE ANY LIVIDITY? >> YES. >> WHERE WAS THE LIVIDITY PRESENT? >> THERE WAS SOME LIVIDITY ON THE FRONT OF THE BODY, ALTHOUGH I DID NOT MARK THE EXACT LOCATIONS OF THE LIVIDITY. >> ANY LIVIDITY ON THE BACK OF THE BODY THAT YOU NOTED? >> I'D HAVE TO REFER TO MY NOTES. >> MAY HE, YOUR HONOR? >> YES. >>> ALL RIGHT. LET'S USE THIS CHANCE TO GIVE OUR CHANKS TO CORRESPONDENT BETH KARAS REPORTING LIVE FROM MASSACHUSETTS TODAY. THANKS ALSO TO OUR GUESTS DARREN GELBER AND ROBIN BOND HERE IN NEW YORK. YOU'RE BOTH TERRIFIC. >> THANK YOU. >>> TIME TO CHECK IN WITH RON CUEBY, ALSO PRETTY TERRIFIC. LET'S FIND OUT WHAT'S COMING UP NEXT ON "BEST DEFENSE." >> HEY THERE, LISA. ON THE BEST DEFENSE I THOUGHT I WOULD TRY TO WORK SOME OF MY MAGIC AND MAKE THIS TSUNAMI OF EVIDENCE DISAPPEAR. >> UH-HUH. >> BARRING THAT, WE'LL BE GOING, OF COURSE, INTO THE AUTOPSY OF LITTLE LILLIAN ENTWISTLE. NOT GOING TO BE PRETTY TESTIMONY. >> YEAH. THAT'S SUCH A HEARTBREAK. WELL, THANKS, RON. WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU IN JUST A MINUTE. THAT WRAPS UP MY TIME WITH YOU ON "OPEN COURT." I'M LISA BLOOM. TUNE IN TOMORROW 9:00 A.M. EASTERN FOR MORE TRIAL COVERAGE. THANKS FOR WATCHING. |